Ignition Systems
for
Russian Motorcycles
(Part IV: Contact-Less (Electronic) Ignition Systems)
Ernie Franke
[email protected]
(01/2011)
Types of Electronic Ignition (Vance Blosser, Russian Iron Motorcycle Club)
Type I - Models from 1994 up to about '96 or '97 had a 'Type I' - a pot metal rotor on the camshaft with
2 steel slugs and a small sensor coil mounted close to the rotor. A hand-wound coil was also
mounted under the front cover. The 'brains' of the box were a bit bigger than a VHS cassette and had
big heat fins, mounted under the seat. The main problems with this system was a relatively weak
spark, and sometimes the timing curve diodes would fail, but could be replaced with after-market
ones and usually gave good service after that.
Type II - Somewhere about 1997 or '98 Type II appeared. All the electronics fit inside a small C-shaped
module that mounted under the front engine cover, across from the magnetic rotor sensor. A different
ignition coil was fitted with a higher output. The components in the module were 'potted' (encased in
epoxy) to protect against vibration, like military boards, but had issues with heat buildup.
Type III - A few months after the Type II appeared, it was replaced with the Type III (approximately mid1998). Physically it looked the same, but the circuit board was modified to prevent heat failure.
Partway into the production span of the Type III, a high-output coil was mounted outside the front
engine cover so it could stay cool. This system was very reliable, although the heavy mass of the
rotor sometimes caused wear of the key. A few cases of the steel slugs coming loose from the pot
metal rotor were noted.
Type IV - In 2002, with the adoption of 750 engines, Type IV was introduced, featuring modern
electronics. The massive pot metal rotor was replaced by a lighter stamped steel unit with notches
that used a Hall-effect sensor mounted in the module cover. The electronics were incorporated inside
the front rotor cover. The coil was a newer design high-output unit that mounted under the front
engine cover. A plastic engine cover was used for heat dissipation. A built-in diagnostic LED
simplified setting timing and gave indication of unit functionality. This unit also had some heat related
issues, partly caused by a method of testing during assembly on one line - a surge was damaging a
component on this line during testing.
Type V - In 2004 Type V appeared, which is basically a Type IV split into 2 parts. The electronics were
moved out into the air-stream for cooling. The LED was visible without any disassembly. Testing in
Europe revealed no problems, but there were a few issues in the US under very hot conditions.
In the mid 80s, IMZ introduced a contact-less ignition system (BSZ),
produced by the Tyumen factory "Papa. It will not work or fit early 6-Volt
Motorcycles which originally had manual advance and retard levers.
Type I Ignition System (1994)
Ignition Module: Plastic Box with Aluminum Cooling Fins on Top
Ignition Module Mounted under Seat
Installed in Urals from 1994 to 1997
Pot-Metal Rotor on Camshaft with 2 Steel Slugs
Sensor Coil Mounted Close to Rotor
Hand-Wound Coil Mounted under Front Ignition Cover
Spark Plug: HGK BP7HS with 0.6mm (0.025) Gap
Ignition Module
B-201 or B-204 Ignition Coil
Sensor/Transmitter
Safety
Arc-Gap
Low-Voltage
Primary
High-Voltage
Secondary
Rotor
Pick-UP
Type I ignition systems were used on Dneprs K-650/
K-750 /MT-9 /MT-10 /MT-10.36 /MT-11 /MT-12 /MT-16 and
Urals M-61/M-62/M-63/M-66/M-67/M-67.36/Tourist and M-72.
Ural () 8.103 Type I Contact-Less Ignition
Magnetic Sensor
(Pick-Up)
Ignition
Module
Aluminum
Cooling Fins
Component
Part #
Breaker Assembly
47.3734.000
Cable
46.3734.40046.3734.400-C5
Ignition Box
46.3734.00046.3734.000-C6
Transmitter Unit
17.3847.000
Rotor Plate
17.3847.001
Rotor Key
17.3847.0002
Magnetic Sensor
17.3847.100
Rotor
17.3847.200
Ignition Coil
B-201 or BB-204
The Type I ignition system had three main components;
magnetic sensor, ignition module and ignition coil.
Repair of Timing Diodes in Type I Ignition
Timing Curve Diodes Often Fail
Diodes Can Be Replaced with After-Market Ones
Unsolder Diodes and Replace with either Radio Shack p/n 276-1114
(2.5-Amp/1-kV) Diodes
Insure White Rings (cathode) Face Same Direction as Old Diodes
Aluminum
Cooling Fins
The timing curve diodes in Type I ignition systems
are easily replaced with Radio Shack diodes.
Type II Ignition (1997 or 1998)
Designated BC3 (BSZ / )
Made in USSR: SOAKE (Stary Oskol Plant of Electrical Equipment)
Replace All Urals & Dneprs with Centrifugal-Advance Ignition (PM-302)
Electronics Inside Small C-shaped Module Mounted under Front Ignition
Cover, Across from Magnetic Rotor Sensor
Ignition Coil with Higher Output Voltage: 135.3705 (Replaced B-201 and B-204)
Components in Module Potted (encased in epoxy) to Protect Against Vibration
Module Had Issues with Heat Build-Up
Located Entirely within Front Ignition Cover
Spark Plugs: NGK BP7HS with 0.8-1.0mm (0.03-0.04) Gap
Magnetic Sensor
Ignition Coil
135.3705
Module: 135.3734
Ural Types II/III electronic ignitions were originally designed as
after-market for Ural, but also fit Dnepr. Urals approved for sale in the
USA (1994) were approved for contact-less point ignition. Bikes with
the manual advance/retard timing unit (PM-05) dont have a threaded
hole in the end of the cam for the rotor bolt of the electronic ignition.
Type II Ignition
(BSC/BC3/BSZ)
R
Magnetic Flux Interacts
with Hall Sensor
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Microprocessor
Hall-Effect Sensor
1 - Hall-Effect (Inductive) Sensor
2 - Rotor with Permanent Magnets
3 - Electronic Commutator (breaker points)
4 - Rotating Hall-Effect Sensor Screen
5 - Hall-Effect Probe
6 - Base for Electronic Commutator
7 - Timing Marks (grooves to adjust timing)
The electronic ignition relies on a Hall-effect
magnetic sensor to provide a timing signal to the
electronic commutator (equivalent to breaker points).
Type II Ural / Dnepr (6 to 16-Volt)
ural-hamburg.de
Type III (mid-1998) (http://sovietsteeds.com/forums)
Designated MSK (Microprocessor Ignition System)
Made in CIS: SOAKE (Stary Oskol Plant of Electrical Equipment)
Shortly After Type II Appeared, Replaced with Type III
Same Appearance as Type II Ignition System
Located Entirely within Front Ignition Cover
Circuit Board Modified to Prevent Heat Failure
Partway into Production Span of Type III, a High-Output Coil Was
Mounted Outside the Front Engine Cover for Cooling
System Very Reliable
Spark Plugs: NGK BP7HS with 0.8-1.0mm (0.03-0.04) Gap
Ignition Coil:
135.3705
Magnetic Sensor
Leads to Ignition Coil
The ignition coil is in the front compartment. There is a horseshoe-shaped
electronics, a pick-up and a metal rotor with magnets embedded in it on the end
of the camshaft that held in place by a D-washer that is made of "unobtainium".
Type III Ignition
(Heavy Mass of Rotor Causes Key-Wear)
Ignition Coil
(135.3705)
Lower View of Front Ignition
Compartment Showing Key
Washer
Upper View of Front Ignition
Compartment Showing
Ignition Coil
The washer "keying" the rotor to the camshaft can wear over time
allowing play in the rotor. The engine will run poorly (backfiring,
running on one side better than other, poor performance). Riders need
to check for security of the rotors steel slugs and the magnets.
Type IV (2002) (Bill Glaser's myural.com site and 2002 Ural Manual)
UKTUS Ignition
Introduced in 2002 with Adoption of 750cc Engine
Located Entirely within Front Engine Cover
Massive Pot-Metal Rotor Replaced by Lighter Stamped Steel Unit with
Notches
Uses Hall-Effect Magnetic Sensor Mounted in Module Cover
Newer-Design, High-Output Coil Mounted inside Front Ignition Cover
Built-In Diagnostic LED Simplified Timing
Sparking Voltage:
17-kilovolt (kV)
Operating Temperature:
-50 to +100C
Ignition Coil
Best with 3705060
Also Works with B-201 and B-204
Current Load:
Engine Off: 0.10 to 0.15-Amp
Self-cleaning Contacts
Engine On (200-6,000 rpm): 1.5-Amp
Supply Voltage: Nominal 12-Volt
7-to-16-Volt Operation
The silver "hockey puck of doom," with the blinking LED,
was located inside the front engine compartment
and suffered from heat build-up.
Type IV Microprocessor Ignition System (2002)
1
2
3
4
5
6
Microprocessor Ignition System, 37.34010
IMZ-8.108-17013 453619001
CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition)
IMZ-8.108-17010 KMCZ 3705060 Ignition Coil 135.3705-2 (5-Ohm)
IMZ-8.108-17071 301262.008
Rotor
IMZ-8.108-17002 687422.009
Hall-Effect Magnetic Sensor (Pick-up)
IMZ-8.108-17135 731151.017
Casing
IMZ-8.108-17008 3734010
Microprocessor Ignition System (MAS)
If the microprocessor (round silver puck with LED)
is under the front ignition cover you have a TYPE IV,
if the puck/LED is outside you have a TYPE V.
Type IV for 12-Volt Ural/Dnepr (ural-hamburg.de)
Type IV/V Rotor Evolution: Two-Piece to One-Piece Rotor
(www.myural.com/interrupterreplacement.htm)
No Swaged Seam
On Newer Model
Swaged Seam
Left: Early-Manufactured, Two-Piece, Swaged-Joint
Interrupter; Shoulder Meeting Round Skirt
Right: Newer One-Piece, Machined Interrupter
Left: Two-piece, with Swaged Seam on Back
Right: One-piece; Devoid of Swaged Seam
Ignition Rotor (750cc)
up to 2006 (MSZ): IMZ-8.1037-17220-20
from 2007: IMZ-8.1037-17220-10
Note: New style, one-piece rotors are available for
Type IV & V electronic ignition.
Type V Ignition Rotor with Swaged seam
The two-piece rotor will fail, causing timing issues
(slip, throwing timing out the window) from a slight miss to
not running. Replace the two-piece with the one-piece rotor!
The ignition rotor was changed to a new "one-piece type" in 2007.
Type V Ignition System (2004) (http://sovietsteeds.com/forums/)
UKTUS Ignition
Basically Type IV Split into Two Units: Magnetic Sensor and Electronic
Commutator (Puck)
Magnetic Sensor (Pick-Up) and Interrupter Located in Front Ignition Cover
External Puck: Electronics Moved into Air-stream for Cooling
Timing LED Now Visible without Disassembly of Front Ignition Cover
Type IV Failed to Advance Timing Once Engine above 3800-4000 rpm
Possible Problems under Hot Conditions
Timing Adjustment:
Bring up the Full-Advance Timing Mark on Flywheel and Rotate Sensor Unit
until LED Illuminates
Locking
Ignition Coil
Magnetic
Screws
Sensor
The silver "hockey puck" was moved to the frame near the front right side
of the gas tank, with an LED that blinks when the engine is running.
The coil and rotor/pick-up unit remained inside the front compartment.
Type V Ignition 2004 Ural Patrol
Contact-Less Electronic Ignition: Model 135.3734
New Model 1135.37 (Ignitionhttp://seriousbill.multiply.com)
New Type Has LED for Timing
New Rotor Made of Very Light Flat Plate
Will Fix Old Problem of Rotor Breaking-Up or Chattering
and Damaging Tabbed Washer
Potential for New Problem, as There Is No Way to
Positively Lock the Rotor in Position, So It Can Slip
Careful Use of Loctite and Proper Tightening of Screw
Will Keep Things Where They Should Be
New Microprocessor-Based Electric Ignition System
Model 1135.3734
Improved Version replacing Old Model 135.3734:
Model:1135.3734 (5 to 12-Volts)
New Model 1135.37 (Ignitionhttp://seriousbill.multiply.com)
Ducati Ignition System (2006)
IMZ-8.108-17008-07: Conversion Kit
Ignition by Ducati Energia (not affiliated with Ducati Motorcycles)
One-Piece Rotor Standard
Standard with January 06 Ural Production
Not much in the front compartment other than the interrupter
and the pickup. The ignition coil is a small square box mounted
under the front of the gas tank and the spark plug wires go to that box.
The brain box for the Ducati is placed near the battery.
Ducati Ignition System
Ignition Coil
Ducati Ignition System
Ducati Ignition assembly IMZ-8.108-17008-07
Pick Up Without Support Plate,
Includes all brackets and hardware
necessary to install ignition system
433138540
Support plate for pickup
'IMZ-8.1037-17120-10
Digital CDI
432406020
Ignition Coil
432262000
Rubber Holder
534801720
Support plate for Ignition
IMZ-8.1037-17123-10
Support bracket for CDI
IMZ-8.1037-17016
Ignition mounting set for pickup
IMZ-8.1037-30026
High-Voltage Cables with Caps Ignition
Coil with Spark Plug Caps
532165770
Ducati, introduced in 2006 Urals, has proven to be a reliable electronic
(contact-less) ignition system for Urals and retro-fitted Dneprs.
Ural Power Arc Ignition System
([email protected])
Retrofit Ducati or Types II-thru-V Russian Ignitions
Two Ignition Curves Loaded into Processor
Standard Ural/Ducati Curve
Second Curve Accessed via Momentary Toggle Switch
Coil Receives No Current if Engine Not Running
No hot Coil
Multi-Spark Feature (fires three times each firing cycle)
Simple Installation
Built -In LED Timing Light
Tachometer Lead and Rev-Limiter Available
Exclusively Distributed by Raceway Services
Raceway Services offers the Power Arc System to cure
the problems of previous Type II thru V ignition systems
and provide improved perfomance.
Ural () 1995
Flasher
Regulator
(PP-330)
Foot-Brake
Signal Switch
Horn
Ignition
Switch
Master Battery
Switch
Turn
Signal
Battery
Ural () 2001-2004
Ural () 2005 Patrol
Ural () 2006 Patrol
Flasher
Horn
Ural () 2010
Ural () IMZ-8.1230 "Solo"
Flasher
Battery
Ignition
Switch
Ural () 8.1233 Solo Classic (-)
(with electric start)
Flasher
Horn
Battery
Ignition
Switch
Turn
Signal
Ural () Wolf 1991
Flasher
Turn
Signal
Ural () (Volk or Wolf)
with Electric-Start
Flasher
Battery
Ignition
Switch
Turn
Signal
Ural () IMZ-8.1237 "Wolf"
1.Ignition 2.Ignition Coil 3.Ignition module BSZ 4. Horn 5.Fuse block 6.ignition 7."Day7."Day-Night" with accidental ignition is
turned off and switch starter 8.pointer neutral gear 9."stop" signal
signal front brake 10.Starter Relay 11.Starter Relay 12.Starter
13."stoplight" rear brakes 14.Generator 15.Ground switch 16.Battery
16.Battery 17.Rear Lights 18.Lamp marker light A12A12-5 19.Lamp
braking signal A12A12-2121-3. 20.Lamp flashers A12A12-2121-3 21.Turn Signal 22. light and direction indicators 23.Speedometer
23.Speedometer
24.Turn Signal 25.Lamp A12A12-4. 26.Headlight 27.Lamp A12A12-45 +40 28.Lamp A12A12-1 29.Flasher