Say Hello Transcript
Say Hello Transcript
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OK, welcome to Say Hello Course One. This is all about approach anxiety. That
fear, that trembling that really miserable feeling that you get when you see a
woman that you want to talk to and you just can’t do it. Our goals this week we
want to identify where your approach anxiety originates. Then we want to give
you some tools to combat it.
These are going to be both short term tools and things you can use in the
moment when it hits you and also some long term fixes, some stuff that you can
use over time and that you would want to develop, not just now but over the
course of the next weeks months and years.
The biggest thing about this that I can tell you, the biggest thing that holds guys
up with approach anxiety is that they just do not have fun when they are talking
to women. I mean if it is not fun, you are not going to do it, right? Why would
you?
If it is not fun in your life, women are going to feel it and they are not going to
want being around you. Bottom line, if it is not fun your life is going to suck. The
whole angle that we are going to take with all of these approaching stuff is we are
going work to have you enjoy it, to have you have fun with it and if you have that
attitude you are just going to rock.
Let’s drill down. What is approach anxiety? I spent a lot of time thinking about
this and I remember when I had approach anxiety I used to get really in my head.
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It was not just about being in my head. It started before that. Approach anxiety is
a feeling. It is something that happens in your whole body. It is a feeling that
inhibits action, in that way, it is kind of an emotion. Then what happens is a series
of thoughts comes and they validate that feeling.
You’ve got to remember that it starts with the feeling. It doesn’t start with the
thought. You just can’t think your way through it. You can’t be like, OK, well, I
think this and I think that, therefore, bam! Feeling gone. It just doesn’t work like
that because it’s happening at a level that is deeper than the neurological level.
This is why alcohol helps people. It actually diminishes the feeling of approach
anxiety and can even replace it in some instances with boldness or confidence. In
any case it changes the biochemical composition of your body for a brief period of
time and in doing so it changes that feeling.
That’s one way to deal with a bad feeling. What are some other ways that we can
deal with a bad feeling? You can force yourself past it. We’re going actually to
look at some ways to force ourselves past this feeling but those do require
tremendous will power and if you are not careful about it, they can be really
tiresome. The ways I may give you are not going to wear you out, they are just
going be kind of shifts and perspectives that will help you force your way through.
You can expose yourself past this. If there is a feeling that you really do not like to
have you can just continue, put yourself in front of it. Some feelings run really
deep and the case of things that cause really bad feelings like soldiers at war. It
can lead to post-‐traumatic stress and obviously we do not want to cause you any
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deep psychological problems here. Exposure, it will kind of be a part of whole this
program but not too much.
You can condition yourself past a bad feeling. Essentially changing what it does to
you and the feelings you have associated with it. We’re going to be doing a little
bit of that here. Ultimately you can change who you are relative to the bad
feeling. That is not just changing what it does to you but it’s really like, if the bad
feeling is here, you are just moving your whole body over in this direction. You are
saying, “Hey, the bad feeling is coming this way, I do not even look at it. The bad
feeling, it doesn’t even touch me anymore.” That is our ultimate goal for Say
Hello.
Now, it wouldn’t be able to sit here and talk to you about this stuff if I hadn’t
been through this myself. I want to share with you what my feelings were; my
thoughts were and how this all manifested itself and how it changed because I
think that is very instructive for you to be thinking about, where was, where was
this guy a few years ago?
The first feeling I would always feel scared. When I would see women I wanted to
talk to I would definitely feel scared, this impending sense of doom, is the best
word I can put it like. There was some task ahead of me and I did not want to do
it. It was not defined. It was just there is doom out there. I would also, the closer
that I got to having to do it, I would actually start to feel sick and the doom all of a
sudden took a form. It was as if I was a paratrooper in World War Two and I knew
that there were anti air crafters on the ground waiting for me. I would start to feel
sick and get really nervous and it just was not good. Ultimately I would start to
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feel weak and that is the worst thing for a man to feel. A man never wants to feel
weak.
Like the wind had been knocked out of me and I could not actually take action.
There are a lot of ways that this manifested itself in my thoughts. Some of my
thoughts included like, someone should tell me what to say. I wish someone
would tell me what to say. I just need to know what to say and of course. What
shall I say next? What shall I go to next? OK, I talk to her for a little bit but what
now, Bronco? How do you create, how do I create that spark? When I approach
girls things are kind of boring, they are dry, I do not know how to create that like
little, entertaining spark that she and I would feel.
If I was more clever I would come up with something so I really got down to
myself for not being clever and not having good ways to approach girls. If only I
had more money or a cooler place or more hair, something like that. All sorts of
excuses I would come up with for, if only. Ultimately this is a big one, it took me a
long time to figure out that I was thinking this, but if she is going to find me out. I
had a fear that a woman would find me out. There was some deep part of me that
she was going to discover. That is not something we can address overnight. That
is something you deal with, something that, it is going to take a long time to deal
with. We will get to that in a second.
I’m going to start with what changed for me. First thing was, I started hanging out
with this guy named Jeremy. I do not talk to Jeremy much, and in fact I have not
talked to him in years. I remember talking to him and he was one of the first guys
who ever articulated so well. He said, “I stopped caring what people thought of
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me.” For some reason I used to really care what people think of me. You can
always tell a guy who is good with women or not by his attitude about what
people think about him. I know some guys who profess to be really good with
women but they really care what people think about them and so they are not.
A person who is good with people usually doesn’t care what people think about
them because they are so confident in who they are that if somebody doesn’t like
them they say,” Oh, well, they do not like me.” Moving to New York also helped
this quite a bit. I mean, this is, it is not a very forgiving city. There are a lot of
people to meet, a lot of people who won’t care about you and a lot of people who
do not care what you think about them.
The first part of this for me had to deal with taxi drivers, where they were driving
terribly or I did not feel like they deserved a certain tip. I would just start to feel
honest about it and I would get at either to tip them or not, telling them, “Hey
look, why are you taking this route?” This is one of the things that clicked for me. I
stopped caring what they thought about me and I started caring about what I
thought of them and that was a big change.
When I was working at Charisma Arts if you know my background at all, this is
way back in 2004, 2005. A guy named Jugler and I started a company together
called Charisma Art. It was one of the first and the time was the largest pick up
boot camp company in the world. I came up with this thing called the bombing
opener which you have probably heard me talk about already but it is essentially
going into an interaction and trying to ruin it.
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I came up with this as a tool for myself and for clients because I knew that if we
could get past the fear of approaching, if we could bomb and get that out of the
way, then at least the worst thing possible had happened to us and it was just like
jumping into a really cold pool and not stepping our way in but just diving right in
real quickly.
When I started doing the bombing opener that definitely changed things but,
yeah I still had a little bit of fear. Getting other parts of my life handled, they had
been times in my mid 20s when I was completely broke, where I was completely
in debt. There were times when I was getting high all the time, smoking a lot of
weed. There were times when I was drinking way too much, when my health was
out of order.
That was one of the worst things was that when I had got like, I started to have a
pear shaped body and I was like, just having my life out of order was not good.
Having my professional life out of order was really bad. Having my life in order
changed a lot. It certainly changed the sense of entitlement that I had when I
walked up to a woman and I could say, “Hey, my life is in order. I can bring this
woman into my life.”
Lots in approaching and just lots of women in my life. That’s something we want
to work on over the n ext four weeks and we want to get you approaching more
girls. I know some guys come into this course and they have approached like 700,
1000 girls before. Other guys come in, they have approached five.
Having a lot of approaches in your life and ultimately having women in your life
who have been girlfriends and who you have been intimate with, that adds a lot
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of confidence. That is just not something that can be faked. I think a lot of guys
look for shortcuts and all there is in life but straight up, that is not something you
can fake. That is like the US dollar is a currency that isn’t pegged to any specific
precious medal.
The US dollar could be the value can be faked in the world economy. The value of
gold cannot be faked. If you want to become gold you’ve got to have women in
your life. You’ve got to have your life together. It’s just that simple. Another part
of being a gold in a person if you will, is certainly something that happened to me.
Coming to know who I am and finding joy in my life. I mentioned that I used to
smoke a lot of weed and it is funny because in the last year or so, whenever I have
tried to do that I feel really crappy. It used to be something that totally released
me and it has changed into something that really boxes me in.
What I realized is that and it could be fun but for me marijuana was some way to
kind of escape the existential pain of having debts and not being happy and all
that. Now that my life is on track, now that I am happy, now my profession is
together, I’ve got great people around me, I am secure and in my place in the
world and certainly in my faith and my life and all that stuff. Having that all
together, all those traditional escapes bring me down and they take me away
from a reality that I really enjoy.
That has taken a long time to get to. I’m not going to lie. Finally changing my
perspectives and interactions and that is a lot of what we are going to work on
here is, I used to think one thing about how women thought. I used to think one
thing about how people would respond to me. Through both experience and
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being taught to think differently, I changed my perspectives. What can we work
on here? Let us go through each of those and figure out how they are going to
work for you and how they are going to factor in.
The first one is not caring what people think, OK? That is going to come with time;
it’s going to come with exposure to people. You can certainly use the bombing
opener to help out with that. Ultimately what it comes down to is, can you be
bigger than your environment? Can you own your environment rather than letting
your environment own you? Now in small towns are a lot harder than a big city
like New York. You can come hang out with us in a big city like New York. If you
are in a big city then by all means you need to be bigger than your environment.
You have to be of the world not in it so to speak. That is really important. It is just
being of the world not being in the world.
I remember when I was, when I first came to New York, I was really wrapped up
with like the club scene here. I let its values permeate me. I let it touch me. These
days when I go to clubs, I think, “I’m of this but I am not in this. This surrounds me
but this is not me.” That’s a really important concept to have when you are, just
relative to the world around you not caring about things. Getting other parts of
your life handled, that is another one. This isn’t for us to hear now. Actually there
are some other courses that we have for that. Unbreakable goes into that a little
bit. We have another course called the “Ten Code” that will come out eventually
and that is going to into new more depth, but that is not for here now.
Lots of approaching, lots of women that is an eventual process. I want you to be
approaching a lot of women on this course. I want you to have a lot of women in
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your life if that is what you want. That is going to be eventual. It’s not something
that I can just snap my fingers and give to you. Coming to know who you are and
finding joy in your life that is a lifelong goal. It is something that I still work on, on
a daily basis. I still work on it with respect to spirituality, I work on it with respect
to health, I work on it with respect to my intellect, my wisdom and my
professional skills and even my relationship abilities.
Knowing who you are and accepting who you are is not, I think about this in all
realms. It is never as end point, it is always, when you, let us say that you come
into a new faith or you decide that you are going to get good at approaching
women or you are going to become a writer. Making that decision is a starting
point and there is no end point in your life. The end point is when you die but it is
always a process of continual evolution, of getting better at this stuff, et cetera, et
cetera.
A change in your perspective and actions, that’s our primary focus for this
particular part of the course right now. We are going to work on looking at how I
see interactions. How guys who I know who do really well with women see
interactions. We are going to give you the tools to do all in that regard too.
What’s the eventual outcome? Well, we want to give you a different feeling about
women. That’s really critical. You have that feeling in your heart, that fear and
some of it is related to women. I want to give you a different feeling about
women.
Another outcome I want is a different feeling about yourself relative to women.
Finally a different feeling about approaching women specifically. What is the rest
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of this course going to be about, specifically this module of the course? Well,
we’re going to talk about why everything else that you have studied up to this
point has not worked and why a lot of other stuff in the dating advice community
doesn’t work when it comes to getting over this particular problem. We are going
to learn some of the perspective shifts that I want to share with you.
We are going to talk about how to put these perspective shifts into action and we
are going to see how they work for you and we are going to see the truth. That is
the next step here and we are going start with common fallacies of that guys have
when they go into trying to fix this.
Some of the common fallacies of guys who are trying to get better at this stuff
and who are just being held back. There’s four of them that I have noticed again
and again and again and again. These are things guys say “I can’t do it because of
this.” The first one is, I need game. The term game, I mean, of course you need
game. You need to be able to be good with the girls.
I think sometimes guys put game above girls. When guys put game above girls,
what happens is that they end up spending a lot of time with guys talking about
game, talking about the ins and outs of game, talking about the things they can do
with game. They do not actually spend time with girls.
That is actually fine. Here is why I think that is fine. I think every guy needs sort of
a group of men who he comes together with, who he bonds with, who he has got
almost this rite of passage with. It just so happens in our modern society, one of
the ways that guys come together and bond is to talk about game and talk about
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getting girls. They do not actually end up with girls until they are like in their late
20s, early 30s. That is fine.
What I am just going to tell you is that if you think that you need more game, and
you are constantly focused on game and you are constantly trying to learn game,
it’s going to take you away from girls. You can have one of those two things, you
are on point. If you want girls then you shouldn’t be so focused on game, you
should be focused on women and on girls and unlike the human condition, I
mean, I have got to be honest, you might have heard this before. You learn more
from reading fiction literature about the female condition than you will from
learning from most courses on dating advice.
I have learnt so much about women from having women in my life and from
reading things they read and from learning about their hearts. That is kind of a
cheesy way of saying you are learning what they are all about and what they think
about and what moves them. The more that you actually spend your time
thinking about women and thinking about what moves women, what women
think about, the more that you will be able to get closer to them. The more time
you spend thinking about game, we will see how far that takes you. We want you
to be getting girls not game.
Another thing that is a fallacy is, what I say matters most. That’s just not true and
I can prove it to you with the bombing opener. I mentioned this a few times
already. If you do not know the bombing opener, basically it is something you say
where you are kind of trying to get rejected but you are not trying to offend the
woman.
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My favorite bombing opener is I walk up to someone and I will say, “Hey, you
guys, I have got to say you both are really attractive. My girlfriend is out of town
tonight. I am wondering if you would be interested in a threesome.” This is the
sort of thing that would at least on paper should get you slapped. The reason that
I can get away with it is because, what they are evaluating about me is not the
words coming out of my mouth so much as it is my intention, my intonation, my
body language, my eye contact. All those subtle cues that are telling them I am
not a creep bag.
Knowing what to say is definitely helpful but getting that ever looser vibe thing
right is a lot more helpful. That is going to be in the next course. I want you to just
spell that myth right now that you absolutely know what to say. A third myth I see
a lot of guys get hang up on is I need to be to be in state. State, I think I
mentioned that already. It’s a term that came about with real social dynamics.
The whole idea is if you are in a heightened emotional state you can do anything.
You can be superman. I think they use the term nimbus; it’s like when you are
glowing.
The fact that matters though, to think that you can be in state all the time is
retarded. You are just not going to be I state all the time. Your emotions are, your
emotions are an ocean and you can’t control the direction they are always going
to go. Most people I know who try end up, they fail because you can’t control
your emotions. At the same time, you can’t let your emotions control you. If you
find that you are not in state but there is a girl who you want to go talk to, the
question is, are you going to let your emotions control your actions or are you
going to just take the action that you need to take?
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Eventually get the emotion you want out of it because you took that action. It is a
very subtle distinction but if you think about it is kind of like going to the gym. You
may not feel like going to the gym when the decision comes up about whether
you should go to the gym or not but what is it that you are ultimately after? You
are after that feeling of leaving the gym and be like, ah; I'm in good shape now.
Even though you might not have that feeling beforehand, you take the action
because you are like, all right, I’m going to go to the gym and I’m going to get a
good feeling about myself.
That will be great, getting in good shape, all that. What you’re ultimately after
here is the feeling of success of having women in your life and the great feelings
that accompany that. If you’re just trying to preempt that by just being in the
state all the time, well, good luck. I just want to get that one out there too.
The fourth thing that I see is, and this is a common one. I’ve got to be rich, I’ve got
to be good looking, I've got to have a cool place, I've got to have better hair. Any
sort of excuse that you can come up with about why you are deficient and why
you can’t do it and why somebody else can. The way reality works is anywhere
you look you can find somebody who is got the same deficiency as you do and
who is crushing it.
I used to get hung up about my blondness, believe it or not. I would say blonde
guys do not do well with women. I was looking at Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt. I
mean he is blond-‐ish. He does great. I mean, look, I’m not above any of these
things. I mean, I have thought all these things in the past and they certainly
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afflicted me. The point is, I got past them and you need to as well if you are going
to be good with women.
Now why has everything not worked for you up to this point? What is holding
you back if you are sitting here right now? The number one determiner of success
in being good with women and being good on the approach is actually doing it.
You just got to go out there and do it. There are a very small percentage of guys in
this course who have, they’ve like done 700, 1000 approaches or whatever.
They’ve been doing it. Most guys have done a very few number of them. They
have not gone really well and so you keep reading more information. The
problem is, what this does, is it gives you what I like to call a pick up ego.
Pick up ego is where you think you are good at picking up women and you can
probably talk to other people about the fact that you are good at picking up
women, but you are not good at picking up women. You have this ego around this
whole thing but you don’t actually go out and do it. Believe it or not I know
coaches who are like this, I know guys who head up companies who have popular
podcasts, who have popular mailing list. They suck with women but they’ve got
this ego because they’ve spent so much time talking about it. They can talk
through the intricacies of it.
At the end of the day is like Jay Z said, game recognize game, whores do too. A
guy who’s good with women knows that other guy is good with women and we
can discern guys who aren’t. No matter how much you want to talk it up, it comes
down to all those nuances and subtleties of the interactions. You pick up ego, just
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drop it, get it out of the way, stop reading a whole bunch of stuff, start talking to
more women.
They are related to the pickup egos, what I’d like to call the knowledge identity.
The knowledge identity is the guy who’s read so much information that his whole
identity is one of knowing information and knowing stuff about how to talk to
girls and knowing. His identity is not one of doing, it’s of knowing. Knowing facts
and having the right stuff and being able to share them with other guys, hey if you
want to do that, I honestly think its waste of time, but you can do it. Honestly
that’s not going to put more women in your life. Doing it is going to put more
women in your life.
The scary thing about having that knowledge identity is every time you go talk to
a new woman; you're putting that at risk. You're saying, OK, I know all the stuff,
let’s see if it’s going to go to work. If you spent a lot of time working on this and if
you spend a lot of time learning this stuff, then that’s a big risk. It’d be like
accumulating a bunch of money and then reading a bunch of books on how to
trade stocks and then having to place your first trade. It can be really nerve
wrecking and you could be like, I know how to do this but I'm not willing to risk it
all now, but I've got it.
You’ve got to be able to risk it with women; you have to actually be doing it
regularly. Otherwise you're just not going to get good. The way I like to think
about it, you're shit until you're the shit. Until you can actually go do it, until you
can prove to yourself that you can go do it, you're shit. Take heart in that. I mean
it’s pretty binary that you're good at it or you're not. If you're not good at it right
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now, hey that’s why you're here. You're here to get good at it. You’ve got to move
past that ego, you’ve got to move past that identity. If you're shit, just accept it
man.
I used to be shit at cold calling, I hated cold calling. I ended up making like 500
cold calls in a couple of months. I got to be good at it. It sucked along the way but
I became the shit and so to with women. If you suck at approaching women, hey
that’s fine. All that is good and well and all that. When will anything work? This is
a longer term thing here. Because you can go through this course and I know that
if you actually put it in practice it’s going to work for you. I've also worked with
guys who they’ve got issues that run so deep that we are not going to be able to
solve them in a four week course. There are some guys who are going to keep
coming back to this stuff. Hey that’s fine. Sometimes you need more.
When will anything work really? When will all this stop being something that you
actively have to really put your time into it and you can start thinking about other
stuff? Well it’s going to be when it stops being so focal point of your life, and
when it becomes one of many paths that you’re pursuing. You have to become
your own source of authority. The only way you're going to be become your own
source of authority is if you're good at this stuff and if you're your own source of
authority at work, if you're your own source of authority in hobbies, if you're your
own source of authority on faith.
Ultimately you're the one who’s able to best judge what's right for you. Here’s
why this is important. Is because when you're your own source of authority, then
it doesn’t matter who you see, it doesn’t matter who you want to interact with,
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you just say, “Hey you know what? I know what my values are, I know what's right
for me, I live in integrity and if it doesn’t work out with this person, oh well it
doesn’t work out but I still know who I am.” I think that the problem that a lot of
guys run into especially the thing that holds them back from approaching women
is they think that the women they see are better authorities in the world than
they are.
I see a woman and I say, she knows what's up, she knows the world better than I
do, she's going to see right through me. I don’t know myself. The more that you
do know yourself, the better that you're going to be able to look at a woman and
discern her and figure out, this is somebody who I want in my life. The less weight
you're going to put in any particular interaction, you can actually approach
interactions with lightheartedness, in a fun vibe because you're not worried about
being found out about anything. You're interested in finding out.
When your world view works for you and others, when you're living in integrity
between your beliefs, your perspectives, your personality, your actions, that your
lifestyle, the people in your life, when there's joy in your heart, that’s when things
will really start working for you. Ultimately you have to become your own
authority on everything. On everything from faith to politics, to business,
everything. That’s when it’s ultimately going to work for you.
With all that said, that’s just what if nothing else works. Hey, I know that these
things are going to work for you. I want to now shift to the shifts. I want to talk
about the shifts in perspective that you're going to experience, that are going to
help you get past your approach anxiety. These are the long term and short term
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stuff that you can do to address it directly head on and move past it. Let’s jump
into that now.
Shift one, I love talking about this one, this is about owning your manhood. Man
this is fun to talk about. I just sometimes look around and I think like we've lost
our way. The reason the fight club resonated with so many guys was that line
when Tyler Durden looks in the camera and he said, “We are a generation of men
raised by our mothers.” I think that that has a lot of truth to many men in our
hearts. We've really allowed ourselves to be castrated, we allow ourselves to
make excuses, we shift responsibility off of ourselves.
I was reading some interesting statistics recently. More women are graduating
from college right now than men. Women on average have higher GPAs than
men. Women are getting more jobs in the workforce than men and we are not
going to spend a bunch of time talking about the last 40 years and what the
feminist women have done. Men have definitely, they’ve allowed women to step
up and they haven’t really stepped up with an equivalent response. What's
happened to this pick up community is really interesting to me. It’s like men don’t
know how to relate to women anymore because women have stepped up their
game.
Men have this attitude of like fuck her. Pardon the language but the whole thing
is like fuck her and I want to fuck her. It has not respect for women; it has no
respect for what they’ve done. It comes from a position of really low value. A
position of high value would be like, “Damn girl, that’s awesome. Congratulations
on the progress you're making. That’s fantastic, I wish you all the best and more.”
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I know that I got up my game because if I don’t, you're going to leave me. You're
going to find somebody else who can. Or you and all the rest of women are going
to go off and form a lesbian society and kick ass. Us men are going o get pushed
away.
The point is that as men we got up our game. As a man the responsibility is always
on your shoulders. Women, you might have your theories about this but my
theory is that women are meant to be child bearers. It’s in their biology, in their
physiology. We are the ones who are supposed to be out there hunting the
jaguars, fighting for bread. Or competing with others of our kind and women, they
shouldn’t necessarily be doing that.
I think it’s great that they're allowed to do that. That’s fine; I think it’s amazing
they’ve stepped up. That women are able to achieve whatever they want to
achieve. That they have the tools and society allows that. If you're a man who is
letting women get the best of you and if you feel like, “Ah man. Fuck women.” I’ll
tell you what; real men are still in high demand in the society.
I live in New York City, I've dated a lot of girls and they always complain that real
men are hard to find. There's a lot of boys, there aren’t a lot of real men. I want
you to be aware of this struggle between the best man you can be and the boy
you’ve been taught who you are. Especially if you're a younger guy, if you're in
you're in your 30s or 40s this might not be as relevant for you.
Although I have talked to guys who are in their mid-‐late 30s and they still act like
little boys. There's a nonstop test of a fire in a man’s heart and that is to step into
fear when he feels it. It’s not to step away from the fear. If you think about the
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movie Braveheart it’s like Braveheart had the choice of walking away or picking a
fight. He went to pick a fight. When you have fear in front of you, it’s like the test
of your manhood.
Are you going to take that fear on or are you going to let it take you on? Here’s
the other really cool thing, is there's a lot of, there are a lot of things in the world
you can look at and argue about. You could argue about, you could argue about
whether unions should have the right to collective bargaining. You can argue
about whether Christianity, Islam or Buddhism is the one right religion.
You can argue about a lot of things. What you can’t argue about is that as the
man, you are physiologically enabled as the penetrator of women. You are the
one who is required to penetrate her and to impregnate her and to bring new life
in the world. You are a crucial part of this equation. Stepping forward into the role
of manhood, looking your fear in the face and pushing past it. It is a very
righteous cause and there's nothing spiritual about that.
There’s nothing religious about that. That is pure biology. There is a righteous
cause for you to look your fear in the face and say “Hey, it is my responsibility to
be a man. To find a woman, to pass my seed on. To pass my genes on, to be a
father one day.” That is an extremely righteous cause; it’s the only thing that you
can really hold on to outside of faith. I want you to really take that to heart. Your
goal of claiming your manhood is to become a person of responsibility.
I've talked about having fun for a long time. I think that the thing that happens
when a boy becomes a man is that he accepts that he is responsible for others. He
accepts that he’s a caretaker of the world. For the last few years, I've thought of, I
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came up with this short form of saying that I like to think of myself as the kind of
like Tom Sawyer if he was a grown up. Another way of putting it and this was even
on an online dating profile when I was doing online dating is balancing fun and
responsibility and having a blast doing so and doing a pretty good job of it so far.
I'm not going to tell you to go off and lock yourself in an office and just work for
others. I'm a firm believer in a lot of Ayn Rand philosophy.
At the same time, you got to have fun. Absolutely have to have fun. I do want you
to be caretaker of the world. I want you to have confidence in your strength. I
want you to have confidence in your ability to hold a woman, to really hold her.
To know that you can keep her safe, that you can deliver her to adventures. That
you can be somebody she relies on.
I want you to feel confident in your ability to hold a family. To hold a family
together and ultimately to hold yourself together. I have a selfish motive in doing
this. I have dated a lot of girls who are damaged. For better or worse, I have dated
girls who had really bad father figures. Some of their fathers were emotionally
abusive; some of their fathers were alcoholics.
What I have seen is I've seen the hearts of some very beautiful women deal with
extreme hurt and extreme pain because their fathers were not responsible men.
Because their fathers didn’t own everything that they were responsible for. Didn’t
step up and be men when their daughters needed it. The world that I want to
create is a world where men are responsible are responsible for the women in
their life. Where men do not just have fun, where they accept the consequences
of their fun and they're responsible for things. What I can tell you is if that is
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something that you can take on. If that is a responsibility that you can bear, your
confidence level will sky rocket.
Because if you know that you can take care of somebody else, if you know that
truly and deeply that you can look around the room and you can see a lot of little
boys who can’t take care of a woman. You can see a lot of women who wish that
there was a man who could take care of them. I'm not saying about this in purely
a provider sense or purely in the sense of a finances.
Truly what I mean is that you can look into a woman’s heart. That you can know
what she needs. That you can be the one to deliver it to her. How do we put this
into practice? Well there's going to be some homework and exercises for you. The
first part of really owning your manhood is being somebody who can take action
when there is something that he wants. When you see something you say, “I go
after this. I want it, I'm a man.” You go out there and claim it.
If you can put this action principle into your life. If you can take action when
there's things that you want. That’s the first very step to claiming your right
among men. Can you push past excuses? Not blindly but with the courage of a
guy like Braveheart. You are going to have excuses; you're going to say, “Oh she's
too beautiful. She's with her friends, whatever. ” Those excuses that ultimately
you do have to push past because they're going to be times when you have a lot
of fear. When there are things that look difficult and you know heck. Approaching
women is going to be a small part of it. There could be a day when you're child is
diagnosed with some horrible terminal disease.
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When something terrible happens in your life that requires a lot more courage
than approaching a woman. I want you to be ready for that. I want you to be
somebody who can look at fear in the face and face it with courage. Face it with
strength and be responsible for taking it on and carrying it. Can you look at your
approaches? It comes down to this very, very small crucible of interaction.
Where you and her starting a conversation, can you look at this very small
moment as an opportunity for you to be a man? For you to relish the challenge
that it puts in front of you. A lot of men, they look at that, they say, “Ah, I can’t do
it, she’s too pretty.” Relish the challenge, take hold of it say, “This is awesome. I
get the opportunity to prove to myself whether I'm a man of action or not.
Whether I can actually go and do this.” When you start thinking in that way,
you're not going to do it every time. I promise you there are times you won’t feel
like it. If you can bring that to yourself and you can remind yourself of that. Then
there's always going to be this voice in the back of your head that’s says, “I know
that there's somebody who I could be and I'm not being that right now.”
That voice will be somebody who pushes you to be somebody better. To be
somebody who takes action. To be somebody responsible and more and more
you'll see your actions lining up with that. Because every time that you don’t
action towards something that you want. Every time you don’t approach a
woman you're going to find yourself letting yourself down.
You're going to say, there's a higher ideal to which I can strive. There's a higher
person that I can be. I'm not being that person right now, I'm letting myself down.
Not being the best man I can be. If that voice is something however faint in your
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head. If that voice is something that you hear, than that is something that will
constantly be reminding you to do better.
Ultimately you need to accept responsibility for yourself, for the people in your
life and or the world you're creating. Every time you take action you change the
world. If you know that you're somebody who acts upon what he wants. Who
takes responsibility for the changes that he makes in the world. Who is owning up
to his righteous place amongst men? Amongst men who must go out and
approach women who must go out and bring women into their lives. Who must
go out and create new life.
Then that will give you so much confidence. That is the first shift in perspective
that I want you to think about. Every time you see the opportunity to approach a
woman. Can you enjoy that opportunity to prove your manhood to yourself? Can
you look at this? Can you say, “Ah this is fun. This is what life is about. This is what
my masculinity is about. I'm going to go talk to that girl.” That’s shift number one,
shift number two it’s all about finding humor in interactions. This is not about
finding humor in the world; this isn’t about being a comedian. I want to make that
really clear. I'm not trying to turn you to Seinfeld here. It’s about finding the
humor in interactions themselves.
Are the interactions fun? Are they challenging? Are they funny? When you look to
make things ridiculous in an interaction, and silly and even childish that
interaction becomes fun. I remember working with clients in the past and talking
with them about why they weren't good with women. There were some guys who
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were really tough cases. They’ve taken a lot of programs; they’ve been coached
by three different guys.
What I found consistently about these guys, there are few things and one thing
that always stood out is they didn’t actually have fun interacting with people.
They didn’t try to make it something fun. It was something serious for them, or
something goal oriented or what have you. Your humor should be a form of
expression. It’s almost an art form. When I think about my interactions with
somebody, I think about trying little things on a canvas. How can I make this more
fun?
How can I add some flair to this? How can I add a big splash of red right here? This
is as I said, not about being Seinfeld. It’s not about, one of my favorite jokes about
Seinfeld is if aliens were looking at us from outer space and they watched us
walking dogs. They’d think that dogs were in charge because basically we follow
behind the dogs. The dogs take a crap and then we pick it up. Of course his
delivery is great. He tells it much better than I do. That’s observational humor
about the world. That’s not what I'm getting at here. What I'm getting at is that I
want you to find humor with another person. In the experience you're having and
mess with that person.
That’s the whole point; you want to mess with the person. Your approach to the
interaction should be let’s play. Why is this important? Why is this a good goal?
For one thing, if you can find humor in interactions and you're lighthearted about
them. Then you’re not going to approach any particular interaction, or any
particular woman with a great sense of weight.
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You're not going to look at her and be, “I have to get this right.” You're going to
say let’s play, let’s see how fun this is. I'm going to go mess with this girl, see what
happens. Honestly that’s become my attitude with 99% of the women who I
meet. How can I mess with them a little bit? Not mess them up, but it’s like
childish playground and stuff. That’s what flirting is all about.
If you can take that interaction a little further, hey all the better. This is really
about stringing somebody along in a game of back and forth to enjoy the act of
interaction. This is not a course on humor but I'm going to give you a few things
that I do. That would show you how you can use humor and how humor can come
out with practice. One of them is leading someone down a particular path of
thinking that is not really reflective of how you actually think. I’ll clarify this, I’ll
give you examples.
Maybe it’s regarding your work, your ambitions. Your plans, things you want to do
with them. When you're talking to somebody it’s all about making them think one
thing that is probably absurd or ridiculous or off topic. Leading them down that
path to the point you say “Ah, just kidding I didn’t actually mean that.” They go,
“Oh you.” Very simple example of this. This is the classic example in the dating
advice community.
A woman asks you what you do and you say, “Oh I'm an ass model.” I've never
said that, I don’t know if you should say that or not. You should say it if you can
pull it off with any sort of reasonable humor. That sort of thing never stood out to
me but that’s an example of leading somebody down a path, sort of diversion. I’ll
give you an example and I actually pull myself.
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This is an example of a conversation I had with my girlfriend earlier today. This is
an example of diversion. I'm just trying to find it here, perfect. What we were
talking about, we were talking about where we might want to live in the future,
what we might want to do. Both of us have talked about how we don’t want to
end up in the suburbs. How we don’t want to, we just don’t want to have an
ordinary life.
We want to travel around the world, we want to see people. We want to change
the world. Right now we’re both in New York; we’re talking about moving to LA
together, who knows. I said something about how I better make big bucks and
she said I thought that was the plan. Here’s where it starts leading somebody
down a path. I said I thought the plan was to make babies and settle in Iowa very
close to Wal-‐Mart. That’s obviously a complete diversion from the actual plan.
The I said with a middle management beige Ford Taurus.
There's this color of paint that is in cars that I've joked with her. It’s kind of a
beige, it’s like what they buy for corporate fleets and I call it middle management
beige. She wrote back LOL, you are getting it when I see you next. No way, post an
ad for a new girlfriend right away. I wrote back and said baby stop killing my
dreams. If they die life is broken wing bird that can’t fly.
That’s actually a quote from a poem. That’s an example of diversion; it’s coming
up with something absurd or ridiculous in a conversation. In this case, I talked
about my ambitions and what I wanted to do with her. There's any number of
ways you can do this but the point is if you're looking for opportunities to mess
with people you're going to find them.
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This is a great way to mess with people. Say what do you do for a living; you can
come up with something diversionary. My friend Bill who runs a site called
puaforums. I remember one time he told a girl something about he, I think he said
he was an alligator tamer. He went on this long story about how he tamed
alligators for a living.
One time I told a woman what I did for work was that I threw organic material
into aircraft turbines to see how the turbines reacted to it because sometimes
birds fly into them. I really led her down this path for a long time. Now again it
doesn’t have to be about your job, it can be where you’re from. You can have
shortened versions so for example whenever women ask Nick Sparks where he’s
from, he says I'm just a sweet gentle boy from the Midwest.
They have to ask another question. Where in the Midwest? Doesn’t matter, it’s
usually what he says but he might say Michigan. That’s diversion in practice. Let’s
move onto another little thing you can do with humor. You can use some frames.
Frame is a, this is something we talk about extensively on Unbreakable It’s
something you apply to an interaction; it’s the way that the interaction looks.
What you're basically doing is you're casting characters in their interactions.
You're assigning values to those characters.
One frame that you can apply to an interaction is she’s not to be trusted. A girl
could say something and you could look at her close your eyes a little bit, are you
sure? Maybe you say, so what do you do? She says, “I'm an accountant.” You go,
“I don’t know if I believe you about that.” That’s the you can’t be trusted frame.
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Another, just at lunch as I was working on this presentation I was sitting at a
coffee shop and there were two women. They're probably in their 50s and they
were sitting at the table nearby me. An old friend of theirs came along and tried
to move my jacket. I kind of grabbed my jacket and I moved it for her. The woman
looked at me and she said, “Don’t worry we weren't trying to steal it.” I said, “I
got to be honest with you, I kind of had you pegged as a thief a long time ago. If
you steal it, I'm going to take that pink hat of yours so it’ll be an even trade.” The
women, they cracked up. This is again a frame I'm just applying to them of you
can’t be trusted. They were having a blast with it.
Another frame, same women 50 year old women, I wasn’t even trying to pick
them up. They asked to borrow my pen and I could see that they had this pen that
wasn’t working. I picked up the pen and I handed to them and said, “You guys can
have the pen but if you break this so help me.” Again they laughed and were
having fun with it. One of the things that my friend always used to joke was he
would talk about girls. He would say, “You can over to my house as long as you
don’t pee on the carpet.” By this point, he’s got a good flirtatious vibe with the
girl. You're not going to say that on the onset.
By this point he's got a good flirtatious vibe with the girls, you're not going to say
that at the outset. That’s the frame of you trying to break something. Another
one is you're trying to kill my dreams. I did that with my girlfriend. I said, “Why
are you always trying to kill my dreams?” That can be funny. You can put these
frames together. You can do killing your dreams with anything. You can talk about
some wildly ambitious thing, you can lead her down the path as I showed you
earlier and then you can apply the frame that she's always trying to kill your
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dreams and you're going to have to go find somebody else who doesn’t do that.
It’s very playful, it’s very funny.
I alluded to phases and expressions, that I don’t trust you expressions, that’s
definitely one of them. Sometimes what I like to do is I just like to mirror a girl. If
she says something surprising, I’d be like something like that. Maybe I’ll just go,
oh my god! Just funny little faces and expressions. I talked about this during our
Fearless seminar that Nick gave, is time and time again I see guys who aren’t good
with women and they're expressionless.
Guys who are good with women and they get their expression right. Course two
we are going to be talking about a lot of facial expressions, but I just want you to
be aware that facial expressions is a huge part of being flirtatious. If you can use
them properly, it’s so great. Being descriptive about stuff. This is an area where
you can sit wherever you want. One example that just came to mind was I was
talking to a person and she was saying, “What's the difference between the Mac
Book and the Mac Book Pro?
Now typical guy is going to answer very technically. He's going to say, “Oh well
the Mac Book Pro has much higher specs. It’s got a dedicated GPU and blah, blah,
blah.” I’d go, “Oh well the Mac Book Pro is the pretty one, its silver.” She's like,
“Oh I like silver.” I was like, “You better get one of those. It’s a little more
expensive but you definitely want the silver. I don’t see you like a white person.”
that’s where being descriptive about something is funny. You can do that with
anything that somebody asks you to clarify on.
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She says, “Oh what's the difference between this and that?” You can always, the
point is that you're trying to simplify the description and not be technical about it,
but be almost stupid about it as if your were looking at it like a total child. For a 5-‐
year old who’s looking at the difference between the Mac Book and the Mac Book
Pro, he's not going to know the text specs unless he’s a genius. He's going to say,
“Ah that one is silver.” Looking at things like you're 5-‐year old and trying to
describe them in that way. That’s a funny way to describe things.
Finally, just being a cheese ball, so for example in that text message that I sent
earlier, don’t try to kill my dreams, if they dry life is a broken wing bird that can’t
fly. That’s a great example of just being super, super cheesy. Race, my buddy Race
the priest who’s producing programs with us, he says all sorts of cheesy stuff. Like
Okey-‐dokey little smokey.
My buddy Rob Judge who was, he's done teleseminars with us. One thing he’ll
always do is interactions. If you're from the 80s or if you’ve watched saved by the
bell, you'll definitely know this one; is he’ll be talking at some girls and says, “OK,
OK, Zack Morris time out.” Anybody who knows Zack Morris would just get a huge
crack out of that. That’s almost a pop culture reference but really what you're
doing, you're just being a cheese ball and that sort of stuff is really funny.
Those are just a few examples of how to have humor interactions. Again those
aren’t things you're going to use right away at the outset, but they might be. You
never know. You might find an interaction where you can be really cheesy right
off the bat. As the course goes on, I'm going to give you some ways to insert
humor very very quickly so that you can create that spark.
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For now I hope some of this stuff is useful for you in understanding how if you're
looking at an interaction in a humorous way, you have a lot of fun with it. This is
the sort of stuff and if you do this with beautiful girls, they're going to be hooked
like that. This is the sort of stuff that I've always used with beautiful girls because
it’s just fun.
My approach is just, heck I don’t care who they are. I'm just going to have fun
with this interaction. I had to obviously give you some examples of how you can
have fun with interactions. The thing that I want you to take away from this, the
mindset and the shift that I want you to take away is, you can do this with
anyone. Maybe not your employer when you're on job interview, your potential
employer. Yet I know people who have fun with their employers when they're in
job interviews, maybe don’t do it if you're going to work at an insurance
company. If you're going to apply for a dot com, this sort of stuff can go over
really well.
It shows you're comfortable with yourself, it shows you have fun with the
interaction, it shows that you're not so in your head that you can’t be in the
moment. I'm going to give you some exercises on how to practice this stuff. I
know that once you start introducing the stuff into your, let’s call it your social
library and skill set, you're going to be having so much more fun. Start looking for
the human interactions in ways that you can just have fun with it. I know you're
going to come up with some of your own and when you do, I really hope that you
can bring them back to this course and report them in the forum and share them
with us.
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Shift three is a shift that when you get it, it’s going to blow you away, it’s
awesome. It’s so cool. It comes from this book right here. This book is called Over
Achievement and it’s by John Elliots. It’s got some stuff in it that’s so-‐so, stuff in it
that’s great. We are going to talk about one of the great things right now. I'm not
even going to pretend that I came with this stuff, because I didn’t, but I would be
a fool not to share it with you. Because it’s so relevant to that feeling of
approaching inside that you get. That feeling that you get is a biological,
physiological response to pressure. A quote directly from this book is, pressure
occurs at moments when meaningful accomplishment is possible.
Let’s think about that again, when meaningful accomplishment is possible, you
feel pressure. I'm sure you can relate to that to various parts in your life whether
it’s been having a project that’s due, having a presentation that you have to give,
having to get something done on time or having to approach a woman.
Now I can’t say that I've always done well with pressure. In fact I'm pretty terrible
at hitting deadlines. I know that when I used to feel afraid about women, I
actually want to throw up and I did a few times. I've shared with you already.
What I was fascinated to read in this book was, he talks about Bill Russell, I'm
sorry. Bill Russell was one of the best basketball players of all times. Bill Russell
used to throw up before games.
He would actually get this sort of nervous anxiety and then he’d throw up and
then he’d like go out there and crash it, he’d be great. What we learn when we
read this book and Elliots has learnt in his research, is that what actually happens
with that feeling of fear, those butterflies in your stomach, that’s a really good
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thing. When you feel that, that’s great. That’s when something you want is right
in front of you. What happens is your body becomes aroused, it’s the flight or
fight response. Fight doesn’t literally mean like put up your dukes and throw
punches.
Fight means getting to a position where your adrenaline is pumping a little bit,
where you're thinking a little bit more clearly, where you're able to take action on
stuff that you know you need to do and get into that zone.
You get aroused and not like hard but your body gets aroused, you enter the state
of arousal. What happens with people who have approaching eyes, certainly this
isn’t the case for me, is that I mistook that arousal for anxiety. Arousal and anxiety
are not the same thing.
The specific quotation from this book that I can give you is anxiety is cognitive
interpretation of the fight or flight response. What's really happening is your body
is entering a chemical induced state that is changing certain elements of how you
react to and feel about the world. Then your mind is filtering that chemically
induced state as bad and it’s a planning anxiety to it. This is just a habit that some
people have.
I remember even back in 6th grade when I was going to play hockey games and
obviously I'm not a big guy, there were bigger guys than me and I hated when
they introduced checking. Checking is when you can go up to somebody and
check them. I had been playing midget hockey and you couldn’t check. Once we
entered squats, we can start checking.
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I was so nervous and I had that same feeling that I had 15 years later when I want
to go and approach women. Again that was state of arousal that my body
entering into. In my own case I was so overwhelmed by their state of arousal and I
let it control me rather than controlling it. Whether be it with hockey with as a
6th grader or approaching women as a 21-‐year old.
What I've learned to do and this is something that you have to bring
consciousness into, is I've learnt to enjoy that state of arousal and say, OK, there's
something I want. That feeling in my stomach, that’s a good thing. What’s the
goal of this whole thing? I want you to recognize when the body is giving you this
power and tune it into it. That’s really what's happening.
Your body is giving you power in this moments and you don’t even realize it. I
want to read to you at the risk of plagiarizing, I'm just going to read through this
list of things that happen under pressure when let’s say he says he's activated the
sympathetic nerve system as energy is re-‐distributed from parasympathetic task
to maximize sympathetic tasks. Fascination, right? Again go buy this book.
I'm going to read to you some of the things that happen when you enter this
state. The mouth goes dry, sometimes called cotton mouth because the body is
channeling effort into tasks more important than producing saliva. We don’t need
extra spit to see the free throw at the buzzer.
The sensation of butterflies occurs in the stomach resulting from excess stomach
acid because the digestive system is shutting down. During a major presentation
to the board whose eating lunch. The stomach cramps because the stomach lining
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is shrinking. The body has stopped producing bile and it’s trying to get rid of any
remaking food. Bill Russell was a text book case.
Sweat flow is a safety mechanism to prevent the body from overheating. Even an
audition from the New York philharmonic is now worth boiling vital organs.
Hands, feet or knees begin shaking. That’s body sending faster motor signals from
the cortex through the motor and runs out to the extremities which will be
running; throwing, illustrating, acting, keyboarding, etc. the heart beats faster to
get more blood going through the arteries carrying nutrients and oxygen to the
working muscles and brain cells so they can perform at a higher level.
The eyes dilate and the vision becomes more acute. The mind races producing a
greater amount of information in a shorter amount of time. All this adaptation is
the body’s way of making us perform more efficiently when we are under the
gun. Most people as I said already, most people have come to believe that anxiety
and stress go hand in hand.
The assumption however is dead wrong, stress not need produce anxiety.
Maybe you just feel as I told you that, like a great weight got lifted off your
shoulders. That feeling is not going to go away any time soon. I know that even to
this day, I have a beautiful girlfriend who I'm completely in love with. When I'm
on a coach program and I have to approach a new woman, I still get a little bit of
that approaching side. I still get those biochemical reactions going on in my body.
What I've started to do and what my goal is for you is I want you to begin enjoying
this nervousness because that nervousness it means you're alive. I know that
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sounds cheese ball has hell, but that nervousness is the greatest sing that what
you want is right in front of you and you're alive and you can go get it.
What I started to do is I actually started laugh at it and I say, “Wow! That’s great.
I'm feeling that right now. This is exciting. Awesome. I don’t always feel this
nervousness, this is great, I'm going to use this. Its fuel and I want you to harness
it.” Just a couple of questions for you to think about and then we've got
homework and exercise for you.
When you feel that body response, can you consider it differently? I hope you will
know, you'll start to feel your mouth drying up, you feel your stomach lining
shrinking, you'll be thinking, oh my pituitary or my saliva glands are turning off
because I don’t need saliva right now. My stomach is constricting because I need
to have energy going out through my eyes.
You're going to be bring some consciousness into that moment and it’s still going
to produce a little bit of the anxiety, but my hope is that it will also give you some
perspective and help you understand that it doesn’t have to be produce the
anxiety. Then you can step back and you can say, “OK, I'm in this moment.
Who owns the moment? My fear or me? Am I going to allow this one little
thought up here that’s interpreting this body response in a certain way, to own
this moment or am I going to own this moment, the whole of me, my desires, is
what I want going to own this moment?” it’s a big difference. Then you have to
say what actions can I take to turn this nervousness into good energy. Do I need
to think about it, do I need to act on it? I know that for example before, this is
when we used to do boot camps weekend in and weekend out.
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I would get really tired and I get really nervous and I’d have all this nervous
energy before I went out. What I started to do was just put on really good music.
When I felt that music and like it was songs like Love Generation by Bob Sinclair,
it’s kind of a dance song. I felt that stuff, I had to realize to myself and be OK, I'm
starting to, I'm feeling nervous but it’s a good nervousness, I'm getting excited
now. Maybe you go out and you do a bombing opener for maybe you just interact
with some people at the bar, maybe you do shots. Maybe it’s that you run up and
down the stairs. It doesn’t matter but the point is when you're feeling that
nervousness and when you're feeling excitement that can definitely happen
before a big night out, I want you to figure out how to channel that into good
energy. Associate that feeling with actually feeling good and doing fun things.
Again for me when I feel that stuff, I put on music that I really love and I just get
really into it. Heck, half the time if I've got some people over, it becomes a dance
party and we are having a great time by the time I head out to the bars.
The final thing here is if you can enjoy that energy and turn it into what's called
social momentum.
One of the things that I learned when I was at Chris Mark’s boot camps,
something really interesting happened to me. There's a very first time that I had
ever run a boot camp, I was out in London. I had to be approaching girls for like
four hours straight. At a certain point I was like man, this is awesome. I'm feeling
so good right now; I don’t want this to stop. Even though I had been rejected a
few times, I had what I came to call social momentum.
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Social momentum is when that energy just becomes part of your emotional state.
That’s really what I think the RSD guys talk about when they talk about state.
State is something that you can bring upon yourself. It’s something that more
often than not is a result of a lot of interactions and it builds and builds and
builds. It does start with that hint of anxiety and that hint of nervousness. How
can you use that in your nights out when you're having fun, when you're out with
your buddies? How can you make the best use of that energy? That’s something
that we are going to consider in the homework, in the exercises.
For now I hope you have a whole new thought about how you can look at that
and how when you feel that energy and that anxiety inside of you, how you can
come to enjoy it and make use of it rather than letting it make use of you.
OK so shift four is what I’d like to call what it is. This is named after a song by a hip
hop group I’d like to call the Cool Kids. What it is this, the assumptions that you
make are not the reality of the situation. I know there are a lot of guys who do
something like this. They go, she's got a boyfriend, she's not going to want to talk
to me. She and her friends are having a great time, they don’t want me to invade,
they don’t want to talk to guys tonight.
I'm going to impose on her, she doesn’t want to talk to guys, she definitely
doesn’t want to talk to me. She's probably married or she doesn’t like guys who
have blond hair. What guys do and I'm certainly guilty of this, is that we make
assumptions about what the reality of the world is and then that becomes the
reality because we don’t do anything about it.
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I want you to understand, the assumptions that you create are not the reality of
the world. The personality that you assign to any particular girl is not yet born
out. I know that sometimes in the past when I would see really beautiful girls, I’d
say, oh she's got to be really bitchy because she's sitting there cold, kind of closed
off.
Then what I realized after talking to them, was oh they were just cold and closed
off because nobody was talking to them. What is at the heart of a cold woman, of
a warm woman, of any woman, you just don’t know it until you start, talk to her.
The other question is what is it at the heart of your experience with a woman?
Not just in her, but in the two of you coming together. That is what it is. You don’t
know that until you start to approach her. The goal of this shift, of understanding
this, is that you're putting a frame; an interaction is holding you back. Whenever
you say she's got a boyfriend, she doesn’t want to talk to me, I’d be imposing,
whatever.
I want to replace that frame with a natural discernment. You’ve got really silly
assumptions right now and I want you to replace these assumptions with
discernment of looking at something and saying, “OK, this is actually what it is and
I'm going to look at it for what it is rather than for what I assume it to be.”
Ultimately what you're doing is you're living for the truth. My buddy Rob Judge
who I mentioned once already, Rob has this great way of looking at interactions.
He says, “When I approach a woman, I want to find out the truth.” The truth
could be that she could accept me right away or she could reject me right away.
The truth could be that she's my girlfriend and long lost soul mate or the truth can
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be that we are going to hate each other. I don’t know any of that until I approach
her. That’s really what it is.
What is the interaction? A little bit more metaphysically if I may introduce a big
vocabulary word here. I think of layers of interactions. The top layer is like the
fun, dorky layer. Chris Rock likes to call it your representative. Chris says, and I'm
not going to try to imitate him too badly. It goes like, when you're meeting
people, you ain’t meeting them, you're meeting their representative. She don’t
like that, her boobs ain’t that big, her legs ain’t that skinny, that’s her
representative. Sorry for the terrible Chris Rock impression by the way. When
you're meeting someone for the first time, usually are meeting the
representative. What it is, is a very playful back and forth surface interaction just
to see if you two vibe. Some people aren’t going to vibe with others.
There's definitely some girls who I meet and I'm like, they're way too serious or
there are other girls that I meet and I'm like they're way too silly. There's girls I
meet and I'm like they're not smart enough. There's girls I meet and I'm like
they're too damn smart for me. The very first layer of the interaction that you
have with the woman is all you're doing is finding out what it is. You're like, do we
vibe with each other on this very surface layer.
The next layer of interaction is like, hey do we actually click? Do we have
similarities, do we get along, do we see the world the same way, is she a born
again Christian and I'm agnostic atheist who thinks that they're multi verses.
That’s the next layer of interaction; see if you actually get along and like … Again
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the first one is just can we vibe together, can we have fun together in this
environment.
The next one is, do we share topical interests? The third one is do we share
similar beliefs and do we see the world similar. The next one, and you can go
deeper and deeper with this. The next one is can we care for each other? Do we
have relationship issues that hold us back? The next one, what are our faults?
What are the things that get in the way of us getting closer to each other?
It’s so funny because if you’ve had relationships you know this and I certainly
know this from my experience is that the coldest woman usually has the softest
heart and the most damaged heart. The warmest woman, she might sleep around
like crazy. I don’t want to make assumptions about that. The point you never
know what it is until you take it to another layer deeper.
If you're applying your frames to interactions before you really know what they
are, then you're just missing out on a whole world of opportunity to actually know
the truth of what it is. I want you to understand that when you approach a
woman, even in those first few minutes, you're in a process of discovering what
the world is and what your place in it is.
You can choose to enjoy it or you can again choose to have it control you or you
can apply all these frames on the interaction that aren’t actually there. It’s up to
you to determine how you look at it. Again my approach when I go up and
approach a woman for the first time is, I don’t know what it is, but I'm going to
have fun with it to the best of my abilities and I'm just going to see what happens
here. Just takes so much weight off my shoulders.
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I can say, “I don’t know where this is going to go, but I hope this is going to go
somewhere else.” For you as you think about your interactions, as you approach
women, I want you to think about this. What is it? It’s nothing until it is something
and then it is something. Now what is it next? What is it after that? At the very
outset its nothing until it’s something. When it starts to become something, you
can be looking at this and you can be saying, yes, let’s make this fun, let’s enjoy
this, let’s add some humor to it, let’s see what she's all about. I'm not imposing on
her; I just want to see what this is all about.
Maybe she doesn’t want to talk tonight, maybe she does, but I don’t know that
until I've started the talk. That is how you can actually start to enjoy these
interactions for what they are rather than for what you think might be or any
terrible imaginings you might come up with.
That’s how we can shift our perspective. I know what it is and actually discover
what it can be. The next thing we want to talk about, this next shift is putting
rejection in its place. Get out your rejection. I've got to tell you I have been
rejected by women in basically anywhere I've approached a woman, I've probably
been rejected by her. That’s just going to be a fact of life. Nick likes to teach that
60% of the response you get from a woman is what's going on in her world, 40% is
what you do. I think that’s very true. Rejection is really not that bad and I think
there's a line from William Shakespeare that I love. It says that our present fears
are less than horrible imaginings.
Your mind is able to create things, your imaginations creates things that are
possible, that are much worse than your present situation. Your present situation
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can be like loneliness. It gets me to a point where I'm like, screw this. I don’t want
to be lonely; I don’t want to go home by myself. I'm not going to let my
imagination own me, I'm going to own my imagination, I'm not going to let it
control me anymore. You’ve got to be able to take some risks in this. I've been an
entrepreneur now for the last 10 years, I've been close to bankruptcy more than
once, I've been close to six figures in debt. Rejection in the world of women is like
going bankrupt in the world of entrepreneurship.
It’s almost a rite of passage. It’s something that you just accept as part of getting
better. What I'm just going to tell you right now is you're going to get rejected.
Maybe I'm the first person to tell you that, maybe I'm not but you're going to get
rejected by girls. Here's the key point, is there are going to be some girls who
don’t want to talk to you and that’s fine, that’s totally OK.
There's going to be other girls who you screw up with. I think that’s what really
gets people afraid, is they're like, I don’t mind if a girl doesn’t want to talk to me,
that’s OK. What I really don’t want is, I don’t want to go and approach a girl and
then feel like I'm letting her down. That’s definitely happened for me. Where I've
like, I felt urges, I'm letting this girl down, I'm talking to her.
I walked up and everything was good and now these girls are looking at each
other like what's this guy saying. I'm thinking, what the hell am I saying? This is
retarded. Well I'm not this dumb. I finally came up with something that after
enough times doing this, I finally came up with something that I said, which is
basically this, I’d look at the girls and I realize since I'm going, I’d be like, “Hey
listen guys, I've got be honest. I'm not actually this weird in real life. For whatever
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reasons, it’s been a while since I've gone up and approached any group of girls.
I'm just feeling really awkward right now. I just hope you can deal with that. Sorry,
what's your names?” they’ll say it and I’d be like, “Cool. Well listen.
I'm going to …” I introduce myself and then I’ll say, “Listen, I'm just going to
excuse myself right now and maybe we will run into each other later tonight and
maybe we won’t. In any case I hope you guys have a good one.” Usually they
giggle about that because they realize that I realize that it’s not going well. By
even realizing that, I'm putting myself in a position saying, “I'm actually a normal
guy, but this is not going as it should.” What will happen after that is nine times
out of ten, they’ll continue to give me eye contact and they will want to look at
me. Then the next time I approach them it’s actually a warm introduction. I’ll say
something like, “Hey guys did you see that weird dude who's walking around like,
he's just been really weird with girls.
I think his name is Christian.” It’s obviously me and they’ll kick out of that and I’ll
just go back into it. Then I’ll start asking them questions. We’ll get into all that
structural stuff in the next few lessons. For now I just want you to understand
that’s a go-‐to phrase you can use when you are seeing the conversation falling
apart. More broadly when you're getting rejected, I want you to understand
something. There's a goal behind putting rejection in its place. One of the goals is
to harden you. You’ve got to toughen up. If you can’t take rejection with a
woman, there's going to be times in your life when you get rejected. It’s just
important that you be able to deal with this.
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You’ve got to toughen yourself up. I want you to join the ranks of the men who
have fought through this rite of passage. There are plenty of men who have gone
out there, who have gone and approached a lot of women and he say, “This is all
part of the game of life.” you're joining their ranks when you put rejection in its
place and you say, “Hey, I know I'm going to get rejected, it’s OK, it’s all good.”
Finally to use a simile or metaphor whatever, diamond mining is a messy
business. If you're going to be looking for a diamond in the rough which I equate
the search of that one true woman to be, you're going to have to get your hands
dirty, you're going to have to get in amongst the mud, get in amongst the dirty
carbon and its going to be gross and its going to be cold around you and you're
going to cough sometimes.
The point is, finding that diamond in the rough, its dirty business. Sometimes
you're going to be chipping away in one direction, there's going to be no
diamonds you're going to have to look somewhere else. Hey, accept this is part of
the game. How can you actually create this shift? Well a lot of the stuff that we've
talked about will help you. The one thing that I want you to realize is 95% of
people in this world have the same fear and that is if they're going to be exposed.
What are they going to be exposed off? That I'm bad with women. Now this is
ridiculous and the funny thing is, that 95% of the people in the world can’t be bad
with women, otherwise there would be no guys who are getting women.
There's a lot of them who don’t work to get better, there's a lot of them who
don’t buy programs on this, who aren’t going to be watching this right now and
that’s their loss and that’s your gain. I want you to understand that a lot of
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people, a lot of men, even men who, they have no idea the dating advice exist
and they probably wouldn’t pay for it if they could, they think that they're bad
with women too.
I was just in Mexico a few weeks ago and I was talking to my scuba diving
instructor down there. He’s like, oh yeah I'm not great with women. This is a guy
he's never even heard of the dating advice community but he has the same fear.
He says, yeah I want to see women and I want to approach. I feel like I'm just
worried about, I don’t want them to find me out.
What you're basically discovering is what it is. You and she didn’t work and maybe
it’s you and she didn’t work in this moment, maybe it's you and she will never
work. If you use my little golden parachute maybe you and she could work again,
five minutes, ten minutes from now. When you get rejected, when this happens
to you, you just got to laugh at it.
There’s no other way to deal with it otherwise you're going to go nuts. You’ve got
to laugh at it, you’ve got to laugh at it and join the company of every other man in
the world who’s ever done a cold approach and is been rejected. Believe there
are a lot of us and you join our ranks every time you do a cold approach and you
get rejected and you just grow a little bit. It’s all good, it’s all part of the process.
What I really want you to take away from this is I want you to care more about
having fun, enjoying yourself in your life, in your day-‐to-‐day when you're walking
down the street and seeing a woman that you like and when you are out of the
bar and having fun with your buddies, you can be cool with stuff, hey whether it
goes well or not, at least you gave it a shot.
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Her response is really don’t matter in the string of life and the long life that you
have in front of you. just care more about having fun, that’s what putting
rejection is and the shift is all about, hey there's rejection, you know what, I'm
just going to have fun with her one way or another. If it happens, it happens, oh
well. That’s what putting rejection in its place is all about. The moment you can
start thinking like that, stuff is going to get a lot more fun for you.
All right, on to the last shift that we are going to have here. This shift is all about
feeling you get and it’s what I call the killer instinct. It’s really about taking your
desires and using them properly. The killer instinct is the summation of your
desires. Any guy who I see who’s really good with women, he's got the killer
instinct. Maybe you’ve been around the guy who has got the killer instinct
because what I can promise you that this is what happens. If you try to go up and
talk to him while he is talking to a women and super engaged with her then he’s,
you are not even a register on his radar. He’ll be, yeah, one second. I remember
this when I didn’t know how to approach women.
My buddy who actually as I sit down to record this, I just found out he's getting
married like a week ago. I remember years and years back in college and he was
talking to this girl, the girl who he is now about to marry and I wanted to say good
bye to him. This is when I kind of suck with women but I was good with business
and he was in the business school, so we were buddies. I walked up and I’m like
“Hey dude, I’m going to leave now. I just want to say good bye.”
He didn’t even see me. I'm like and I move more into his vision and I put myself
next to the girl. ”Hey dude I just want to say goodbye and like if there's anything.
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..” He like, “Yeah, yeah, I’ll catch you later.” He had the killer instinct, OK. He was
locked in, he’s like a hawk on his prey. For some men this comes from their dicks,
for some men it comes from the hearts, for some men it just comes in from a
sense of purpose.
If you play video games maybe you have experienced this. This is easier in video
games than real life. I remember times like when you are playing super Mario 64
and be OK, yeah, there’s a start, got it, got it good. Part of the it comes from
competency, it comes from knowing that you’ve got a focal point in mind, you
know where the end is. Part of it comes from just allowing your desires to not be
hidden and to say I know what I want and I'm going after it.
What is the goal of killer instinct? Why do you even want to allow this part of you
out if you have been a little bit of a wimp before about it? Well it’s to show her
that you are different. It’s to elicit arousal in her. This is the stuff that when you
get it and when you get good at it, it just fries a brain circuit inside of her and she
is like oh, this is a guy who hooks up with girls. He wants to hook up with me. I
want to hook up with him too.
It’s definitely something that is worth developing. It’s going to be something you
develop over the course of the next four weeks and well into the future. How do
you develop the killer instinct? Well the first part of it is just being utterly
comfortable with your desire. Sometimes you will see girls you will be like, oh my
gosh, she's so hot. You will think to yourself I don’t deserve her or I don’t get her
whatever.
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It’s a complete 180 from that. Seeing a girl who you think is really hot and you will
be like I am going after her. This is it. If you have seen Top Gun, it’s that scene
when Tom Cruise walks in the bathroom, has just like looking at her. There's
another great scene, you just see it in his eyes. He is standing there and he's at
her house and he’s leaning up against the wall like this and he is looking at her.
You can see the look at his face.
He looking at her is like I am going to have sex with you later. It grows on me that
though. A girl did that for a little while, she described in the look. If you have ever
seen Unbreakable, I talk about the look in Unbreakable. A big part of the look, the
killer instinct, is like I know a secret that you don’t know and I can't wait for you to
reveal it, but I’m not going to pull back the curtains just yet.
How does that play out or how does that work? It’s kind of looking at her like
you're allowing her to talk to you, you’re talking her, you’re taking things slowly
because you already know where this is going to go. Your desire has already
determined he’s like yeah. It’s this look in your eyes that you know something she
doesn't know and she wants to discover it. It’s like you are telling this little secret
story. You can do a lot of non verbal stuff.
Again we are going to talk about non verbal in the next module. You can slow
down, you can allow for slightly uncomfortable moments where you're praising
her. Again this all has to be calibrated; this is something that you’re going to have
work on. Its best worked on in a coaching environment but certainly it’s
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something that you can practice in a mirror. If she says something, she is like I live
on the Upper East Side. You go, “OK, cool. How do you like the Upper East Side?”
You see what happened with my face there, I'm not trying to rush in anything. She
sells something, I am like OK, cool, how do I know Upper East Side? You can see
that secret and I’m looking at her and she’s like, what is he thinking, what is the
secret going in his head? There is a real creepy way to do this and there's a good
way to do this. You can wink at the girl that's one of the little thing you can do and
don’t do this right at the start.
Don’t wink at her right away unless its cheese ball and we will talk about non
verbal appearance next week. Maybe a little bit on the conversation. You can
have something conspiratorial going on with her, give her a little wink like yeah.
This is funny. The way that you do this without being creepy about it, is that you
use disconnects properly. This is something that we talk about in Fearless, it’s
something we talk about on Unbreakable.
The disconnect is basically where you remove your energy from her, you remove
your attention from her. Let’s take that Upper East Side example. She says, “I live
on the Upper East Side.” You go, “Upper East Side, how do you like it over there?”
Now she is OK,, she a little thrown off, she is like is this guy creepy, what’s he
thinking about?
She starts talking little bit and may be you let shoulders wind a little bit this way
and you look back at her, let your attention wander and then you come back and
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you are like, ”Oh yeah, yeah, cool.” Then you come back in and then you can
really be warm and engaging. “Yeah, cool, I really love it out there. I used to do
some volunteer work up there. Yeah, anyway …” Then you're back to into it. The
point is that the killer instinct is something that is not the whole part of the
interaction but it’s something that you throw into the interaction and it’s really
your desires coming out.
I’ve talked about this in other forms. When I'm out on dates sometimes if it’s
going really well, then I am giving you an example of killer instinct. If it’s going
really well, let’s say I'm sitting across the table from her and she is in the middle
of some story about … The last time I remember this, as I was talking with a girl
and she is in the middle of the story about how she really liked the TV show
Friends.
This wasn’t a deep story, it wasn't something like it was rude for me to disconnect
from her. I started to disconnect and just wondering as she is talking and I
listened to her trail off. She trails off and I came back to her and I was looking to
her like this and she said and I was like, I was just thinking about like something
fun that would be fun for us to do together. She like, “What's that?” At that point
I just got up, I leaned across the table, I started making out with her and I stepped
back and I was like, “I can’t tell you just right here.” You should have seen the
blood rush to her face and she was so excited and nervous.
The fact that I disconnected and I brought my attention away and then I came
back and was looking at her with these eyes of desire and passion. I express
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myself and I bring it back. That's the killer instinct and one should be able to bring
that interactions very early on because that's what is going to set you apart.
That’s what is going to make the girl feel like this guy is different.
A lot of this with your eye contact and with slowing things down and just allowing
there to be space for your desire to come through. What' the enjoyment part of
this, what the fun part of it this? Well I want you to enjoy they way you desire
towards women makes you feel because you can suppress it and be like no don’t
come out, I don’t want you around, stay away or you can say you know what this
makes me want to pursue her.
This makes me like... this excites me like... this is going to be something good, this
is exciting. It goes back to your manhood. It goes back to that feeling of anxiety
and arousal . That's what the killer instinct is all about. When you feel that, when
you see a women you are really into I want you to allow that to come out. I want
you to allow that to something that is every now and then expressed in a way that
she can feel. It’s not stated and you have lot of unexpressing too.
Alright almost done with this week and we’ve gone through this mind set shifts
and we have talked about what's going to work. We’ve talked about what's not.
The last time I said hello a lot of it was not quite as profound is what we just
talked about. You’re welcome to go back to previous week one and look through
it but as I think about module one versus this module one.
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This one attacks level stuff a little better and it give you way of looking at the
world and shifting n your prospective that's quite different than the first time that
we recoded this program. Actually very little came over from week one into week
two. Here's important thing is with all I said where you are going a long term.
I mentioned this earlier none of this is going to matter if you are not the man who
you want to be. Your approaching anxiety, your feeling of imposing upon her,
your feeling of being a bad ass. If you’re not really the man who you want to be. If
you don’t feel like when you step up like she’s about to win a prize then none of
this is going to matter. I mean that phrase being a prize its being around the
community for a long time now but you really got to be the prize.
Being the prize means a guy who feels totally awesome about his life who feels he
can have women in it who is just cool with who he is. It’s about being in an
environment that you enjoy. Having great people around you who you love. All of
this stuff is important. Being the prize is important. Being in the environment that
you love, having great people around you that's all critical but here's a key point
all none of that matters if all that stuff that we just discussed is not there too. I
work with guys who are the prize. They are awesome. They know they’re the shit .
They are great but they still have terrible approaching anxiety because they have
got these sorts of issues that I just brought up here and they’re holding them
back.
Being the prize is important one knowing your worth is truly important is truly a
long term thing. What we just talked about now those things are absolutely going
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to get to get into the heart of the approaching anxiety, of fear. They are going to
have you having a lot more fun in your interactions. I gave you a lot of different
perspectives but there is one goal and that is to enjoy yourself. To enjoy yourself
when you are talking to women, to enjoy the process of getting to know them and
eventually enjoy your way right into the bedroom and into relationships and
beyond. The homework that we are going to give you is going to be focused on
conditioning you have fun, to be light hearted. I obviously hope that you take it
seriously. I hope you really enjoy it and we will catch you with the next lesson. For
now checking out I’ll talk to you soon.
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Hey what's up? It's Christian Hudson here and welcome back for lesson two of Say
Hello. Last lesson what we talked about was what's going on up here in your
mind. We had some amazing feedback from guys in the forum, in the calls.
Whenever we work through this first week of the program, guys always, they're
like, "Whoa like that's some really profound stuff and some pretty major shifts
that happen."
In just a minute we're going to go over some of the things that happened with
guys when they actually went through it, but for those of you that haven't gone
up and done an approach yet I just want to tell you right now some tough love,
you got to do it. I remember when I was working to get better at this stuff, when I
had really bad approach anxiety, there was so much going on up in my head, so
much, and what you're doing right now is you're filling your head with more
information. My goal is to give you more information so that eventually it works
its way back deep into your unconscious so that you can just be fully conscious
when you're talking to somebody who you think is attractive and that you're not
getting distracted.
Now obviously you got to work through that. That's the whole point of this
course. If you haven't gone up and you haven't done your first approach yet, I
want to take a lot of pressure off of you. I just want to give you some stuff, and I'll
give you some stuff later on you can do and say to go up and make that first
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approach, but you just got to do it. Clear you head of anything else. Don't worry
about getting rejected. Just go up and do it.
Now for those of you who did do some approaches and who did manage to get
through this stuff, and I know that's usually when I redo this course about 75% of
the guys are like, "Okay this is awesome. I'm going to go out and say hello to some
girls." I've got some great feedback here and I want to look at the feedback and
talk about some lessons that we can take away from it.
The first little quotation that I got here. "The easiest time to make stuff happen is
pretty soon after you get to the club or party or wherever you're going. If I stood
around too long in the space place I just felt kind of lame even if it was just chilling
with my buddies, and it felt weird going up to people and talking to them. Social
momentum is really important. Just building that up by talking to strangers really
gets me going and thinking."
All right. This is huge. Even as I sit down and record this right now, I've been doing
this stuff for years, just maybe four or five days ago I went out with some of the
guys who I work with, and the goal was just a boys night out. I didn't talk to any
girls until way, way, way late in the evening and by that time I was tired. I'd had
some drinks already. It was just one of these things where I was sitting next to
her, she was sitting next to me. None of her friends were talking to us, so we just
started a casual conversation, and it was so off.
If your goal is to go out and socialize you got to start going out and socializing
early, and specifically this person who made this comment they called out this
term social momentum. I don't know if you've ever heard me use this word
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before, but social momentum is like the opposite of inertia. Once you start getting
going and socializing with people, and once you start your mouth moving and you
just get into conversations you find that it's actually a lot easier to keep going
than it is to stop because you're having fun, you're enjoying yourself, and that
social momentum takes over. That's a really critical takeaway.
Another one. Who's the party? This guy was talking about how, "If I just stood
around too long the same place even if it was just chilling with my buddies."
Clearly they weren't the party when they were out. When you go out you want to
find the party, you want to create the party, you want to be the party. You don't
have to be a nut head, but you just want to be somebody who's got a smile on
your face and is enjoying themselves. That is huge.
Third thing is why are you out? We've been saying this for years. There's a million
things you can do with your life. You can read books on the solar system. You can
go work at a charity organization. On an evening you could get stoned and play
Call of Duty or whatever. Well definitely that last one I think is probably not the
best use of your time.
Point being why are you out? You're out to socialize with people. Especially if
you're taking this course, you're not out so that you can be just sitting there
watching other people enjoy themselves. You're out to have fun and to enjoy
yourself. Make that your point when you're out. Get some social momentum
going, be the party, have some fun.
Let's see. Okay another one. He's talking about going out with friends, and he
said, "I felt much better starting conversations when I went to the bar to get a
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drink without them, or when walking to or from the bathroom maybe because I
felt really self conscious doing it in front of people I know." Okay, so I remember
when again, when I wasn't good at this stuff especially when I went out with
people I knew, I did feel very self conscious too. You got to find some friends who
are enabling of this stuff. Who support you in this stuff. There's definitely guys on
our message board, but find some people in your local community. Whatever city
you live in there's people who are doing this.
The next thing you've got to think about is when you're out with your friends, we
have this term that you might have heard me joke about we call it the asset. The
asset is the guy who starts the conversations. If you've ever seen the Bourne
Ultimatum, it's that movie with Matt Damon, whenever they want to kill
somebody they're like, "Call in the asset." The assets the one who goes in and sets
up the sniper rifle and all that.
Now the asset when you're out and you're socializing, the asset's the person
who's getting more people involved, who's creating fun, and who's just enjoying
what's going on. If you're not around somebody who is an asset than you got to
be the asset if you want to enjoy yourself. Really what this comes down to it is all
up to you.
Maybe one day you make a friend like Nick Sparks, you make a friend like Danny
or Sonny, some of the guys who work with me, and those guys funny men. When
we went out the other night we hadn't even gotten drinks and Sonny was already
talking to girls. Clearly in that situation he's the asset. You got to put it upon
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yourself to be the asset when you're out with friends who are not out there
socializing with other people.
Okay another quotation. This is from a guy who went up and went to talk to a girl.
"She was surprisingly receptive and asked why I did not come over earlier. I just
said that I just saw her. She served some drinks, comes back, and boom mind
blank. It's more like bottle neck. I've got a ton of stupid stuff to ask or say and it all
wants to come out of my mouth simultaneously, but I cannot pick the right thing
so I look dumbfounded and I fizzle."
Look, this happens okay. That's why you're taking this course because sometimes
too much stuff comes to the surface. We want to simplify it. We want to take it
down, and again we're going to do that over the next few weeks. First thing of all,
great job that this guy's even going up and talking to girls. She asks why he didn't
come over earlier. You've got to expect success. This is a huge mind set.
In the last lesson we talked about Bill Russell throwing up before he gets out onto
the basketball court. Bill Russell he expects success. All champions expect success.
They visualize it. They see it happening. This girl she says why didn't he come over
earlier and she's into him. When you go up and approach girls especially if she's
been giving you eye contact or anything like that then you got to expect success.
You just have it in your head. You cannot be expecting failure.
If there's one thing that you can have in your mind when you are approaching
somebody, I'm telling you clear your mind, but if there's one thing that you can
have in your mind that one thing has got to be, "I'm going to enjoy this
conversation. She's going to want to talk to me." I promise you if you have that
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and nothing else, "I'm going to enjoy this and she's going to want to talk to me." If
that's the dominant thought going through your head up here then she will enjoy
talking to you, even if she's not single, even if she's got a boyfriend, whatever,
whatever.
All right. Let's see. Should I go on to the next one? Okay here's a good one. "When
I saw their faces looking at me I couldn't help straightening up, looking gin their
eyes, and smiling. They looked so happy that someone walked up to them. We
ended up chatting for about 15 minutes. They're from out of town and definitely
looking for some fun." What are our takeaways from this one? Hello, women
want to meet men.
When they're out when they're single, if they at all have that look on their face
like they're looking around they want to meet men. Unless they're tucked way
back in the dark corner of the bar. They still want to meet men. You're going to
find situations where girls are out and maybe one of them has a boyfriend or
maybe one of them doesn't. Maybe one of them is not happy with their
boyfriend, whatever and she just wants to have a chat with another guy.
Point being, women want to meet men. That is just a truth. Remind yourself of
that. Women aren't all scary. They can be super, super friendly. This guy totally
surprised himself. He walks up. He starts talking to them and they look happy and
they start chatting. Bam. Those are some real notable takeaways that I wanted to
share with you.
This is the key point. This stuff is not that hard. A lot of it is up in here and you're
holding yourself back if you're not starting these conversations. This week if you
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have been doing conversations, if you have been approaching girls already
fantastic. What we're going to go over this week is going to help how can we say,
we're going to chisel away at the marble.
We're going to hone something. We're going to hone your personality. The
approaching you've been doing for the last week great. If you haven't been doing
the approaching you got to get out there and do it. Do it, do it, do it. Women
aren't scary. They want to talk to you, and expect success.
All right let's move on to part two, and we're going to talk about nonverbals right
now. I'm going to share a couple of really fun facts. Chances are you've heard
these before, if you've not these are always like fun little ah-‐has.
The first little ah-‐ha is that some UCLA researchers found that 93% of
communication is nonverbal. I don't exactly how they determined it was 93%.
That sounds like some ridiculous test to me, but the point is even if it was not
93%, even if it was less than that, even if they were off by a huge statistical
number like 20% then 73% of communication is still nonverbal. That's a lot of
communication for somebody to experience from you. Got to get the nonverbals
right.
Another study that I love came from a book called Blink. If you haven't read it
highly recommend it. It's from author Malcolm Gladwell. In Blink he reveals a
study where basically what they did was they had a bunch of doctors and half the
doctors had been sued three times or more for malpractice and the other doctors
had never been sued at all.
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They tape recorded their conversations with patients, and then they got a bunch
of people who'd never met the doctors, never met the patients before. They just
played the conversations for those people. They said, "Okay who do you think
gets sued, and who don't you think gets sued?" With something like 95% accuracy
the group picked the doctors that got sued so easily. It was all in their intonation
and all in the way that the doctors spoke.
Here's what's really interesting is then they processed the audio in such a way
that they took out the speech of what the doctors were saying. If you were
listening to me without speech it would sound like this. I'd be like ... I hope no one
ever gets that video clip and puts that on YouTube because I look like an idiot.
That's what they were listening to and still with something like 60 or 70%
accuracy the volunteers in the study could guess which doctors had been sued
and which hadn't. It wasn't even the words coming out of their mouth, it was
their tonality, their pacing, they way they put pauses in sentences, all that stuff.
Nonverbals are just so important, and nonverbals aren't just the way you look.
They're also your tone and the way that you pace your words and all that stuff.
The way that I like to think about this if you want to get a little geeky and
philosophical and metaphysical is that there's different communication channels.
One of the channels is the words coming out of your mouth. Another channel is
your eye contact. Another channel is the way you move your body. Another
channel is the tonality of your voice.
Another channel is the way that you smell. If all your channels are working great,
but you smell like a swamp rat then chances are the girl's not going to be around
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you because you don't have that channel working for you properly. Now if she
can't smell anything, hey all the better. You're nonverbals I think we stress this
enough, you got to get your nonverbals right.
What are your nonverbals saying? Well the first thing they say is that you're
comfortable with yourself. They also say that you're confident with women. They
say that you feel like you deserve being there. They say everything really. A lot
more than your words. You can stand there with good nonverbals and smile and
nod and ask some really basic questions and not work that hard, and if you're
nonverbals are good you can get a long way in your conversations. They way you
can think about them they're like a tell in poker. Women can immediately read
them, and she can say, "This is a confident guy." This is why we have to get them
right.
I'm going to give you a high level of all the nonverbal communication channels,
and then we can get in to some specific nonverbals here. Some of the channels
are eye contact, hip positioning, body movement, shoulders, vocal tonality, vocal
pacing, energy and vibe, and this thing that I like to call swagger. Let's jump into
them right now. I'm going to walk you through them and we're actually going to
have some demonstrations of different forms of these things as well.
It all starts with eye contact. Often times when we're working with clients in life
coaching situations, one of the first things that we'll be doing and checking for is
are they making good eye contact or not when they're out at the bar. If they are
making good eye contact, then fantastic, conversations are usually going well. If
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they're not making good eye contact, then we're constantly reminding them, "Hey
your eye contact sucks."
I remember one particular time just to drive this point home for you. I came up
with this opener. It was on the spot. If you use a BlackBerry you might know of
something called BlackBerry Messenger. It's an instant messaging application for
BlackBerry. I've since switched to an iPhone. I know a total turncoat, but back
then I was all about the BlackBerry and I saw some girls out. I walked up to them
and I was like, "Hey, guys I got an opinion for you." I mean a question. I'm sure I
didn't say I've got an opinion for you, I mean a question.
It was probably something like, "Hey guys I need a quick opinion. What's a good
time to add somebody on BlackBerry Messenger? It's an intimate communication
platform and you can when you've receive the message, and you can see when
it's been deliver to their handset. You really know what the person's doing. It's
actually a really good conversation starter. I've used that one since then
whenever I've seen girls with BlackBerrys.
What I was doing wrong was I was looking at my BlackBerry as I was talking to the
girls. They were all like, "I don't know. Just whenever." They didn't want to have
anything to do with me. I'm like no this is a really good conversation starter. I'm
go to use this with some other girls. I went and did it with some other girls. Same
thing, I'm looking at my damn BlackBerry the whole time.
Finally I walked up to some girls and I had my BlackBerry in my hand and they had
BlackBerry's too. This is New York, you know everybody has a smart phone. They
have their BlackBerrys in their hands too and I'm like, "Hey guys I have a question
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for you. It's a pretty important one. What's a good time to add someone to your
BlackBerry Messenger?"
Probably holding it like this. "What's a good time to add somebody to BlackBerry
Messenger? You can totally see when somebody's received the message, and I
don't know like if you're dating somebody is it first date? Second date? Third
date? That's a big challenge. How do you guys? You guys have BlackBerrys. What's
the protocol?"
That totally worked. It got the conversation started and all of a sudden we're
having fun. What was the difference is I was making eye contact with them. I
wasn't looking down at my phone. Great conversation starter. Again, I've used it
many time since then. The reason it works the third time and the reasons it's
worked almost every subsequent time, I'm making eye contact.
Eye contact it's one of these things where women are looking for you to be
expressive. They're trying to figure out who you are, and if you're not making that
eye contact then they're thinking, "He's trying to hide something from me. He's
not expressing. I don't know what's going on with this guy."
It's also linked to your internal state. If you're feeling confident internally, if you're
feeling just happy and you got nothing to hide then great. You can make good eye
contact. If you feel like you have things to hide like you're not that confident then
you're going to have a hard time making eye contact. It's a really strong emotional
communication channel.
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What are some good eye contact expressions? Well there's a million. Honestly,
anything that is expressive is good, but I'm going to give you four right now, and
I've actually got slides of these that you'll find beneath this video, but I'll give you
four right now for those of you watching the video itself so you can see what
they're all about.
The first one would be happy. That's where it's hard to fake a happy smile
because it happens not just with your mouth, but with your eyes. Your eyes if you
see like George Clooney when he smiles he's got his eyes, they smile, and it
causes crows feet right here. You just know it. When you look in somebody's eyes
you can see and you're looking at them and they're happy when they're talking to
you. That's one of the first ones. When you're talking to somebody you're happy.
Another one is warm. Warm, I pull back and it just looks like this. It's a little bit
more chill. It's a look of appreciation. I'm just looking at you like ah, so happy to
be here right now. I'm not like ah yeah, I'm happy and blah, blah, blah. I'm just
warm. I'm like this feels good right now. That's warm.
Third one would be focused. Focused you narrow your eyes a little bit. Another
thing that I like to call this is discerning. You're trying to figure the person out.
You're narrowing your eyes. You might drop your head a little bit or might twist
your head. You might even, well that's a little bit too far to the side, but you might
tilt your head a little bit to the side like you're really trying to figure somebody out
so you're focused on them. That's another good form of eye contact.
Another one is sexy. Sexy is like focused, but you're definitely got some thoughts
going on in your head. It's almost linked, you know we've talked about how this is
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linked to your internal state, but if you're looking at a girl and you're thinking
she's really sexy and that's being projected with your eye contact, you're going to
be looking at here with a little bit of smile on your face like mm-‐hmm. Just like
that. That's a much sexier look than just focused and just trying to figure her out.
Focus and try to figure out, your mouth's not doing much. Sexy you're like you got
this smile like you know a secret that she doesn't know. That's what the
difference is.
Two really bad eye contact expressions. One of them is just over interest. Like
that. Like uh-‐huh, uh-‐huh, yeah, uh-‐huh, uh-‐huh, mm-‐hmm, mm-‐hmm. That looks
really rapport seeking doesn't it? If you're just looking there with your eyes big
like that. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh-‐huh, uh-‐huh. I call the iguana movement. My
girlfriend and I were down in Mexico and we saw these iguanas going like this all
the time, and anytime you're bobbing your head too much and your eyes are
really open, it's over expression. Don't be an iguana.
Another one that's not good is expressionless. Just when you're going like ... Yeah,
that's not good at all. I will tell you this, and I said the same thing in our Fearless
seminar is when we speak in New York meet up groups from time to time.
Sometimes I'll see guys and they're in for one or two events. Other times I'll see
guys who are in for jeez, I've seen them three years straight. I'm like what's going
on? The guys who don't get it, the guys who are not good they are often
expressionless. After the second year and the third year their faces are just not
expressing things and their eyes specifically are not expressing things.
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This is something you really want to work on. What I want you do we've loaded
you up with not just what I gave you right here, but I've given you some pictures
and examples of what these things look like. I want you to go practice these in
front of a mirror. You got to get this stuff right. Just work this into your expression
vocabulary for lack of a better expression. Have fun with this. Be a cheese ball.
Practice in front of the mirror.
Finally, if you really enjoy this I would suggest you get a couple movies with a
male actor who you like whether some popular ones would be Colin Farrell, Tom
Cruise, Russell Crowe ... Who else? Guy Pearce is good. Find some guys who know
how to be sexy. Brad Pitt. How could I forget Brad Pitt? Find some guys who know
how to be sexy and watch what they're doing with their eyes and their face in
general. Try to copy that in front of the mirror. This stuff will pay off huge
dividends if you get it right. Do not skip this one. That is eye contact.
All right for this next segment I've enlisted the assistance of my beautiful
assistant, and we're going to talk about body positioning and body movement.
We're going beyond the face and talking about what's going on with your whole
body. I want to start by talking about your hips. There is this song that Shakira
sings that you might know it's called Hips Don't Lie. If you listen to the lyrics you'll
get a very good insight into a beautiful, intelligent female's perspective on what's
going on with your hips when you're talking to her.
The hips really signify your commitment to the interaction or not. If your hips are
tilted towards her you're committed to speaking with her. If your hips are tilted
away, you're uncommitted at this point. It also shows your openness to the other
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person. You can see if I'm talking like this and if my hips are in line with hers then
I'm very open. I'm talking like, "Hey what's up? Are you enjoying your evening?"
Blah, blah, blah, et cetera, et cetera.
Now if I move my hips away you can see at this point I'm uncommitted to the
interaction. The final thing it indicates is ease with self. If I'm comfortable with
myself then my hips are towards her, if not then the hips are away. Your hips are
going to be a big, big, big part of that initial moment when you walk up.
When do you move your hips towards her? We're going to get into some don't
dos in just a second, but what I want to move on to is talking about body
movement. If you were to just walk up to a really attractive woman and just stand
right here and go like this. Say, "Hi. How are you? How's your evening going?" Be
a little bit weird right? You don't want to be able to do that. You want to be able
to move in and out when you're having the communication with them. You want
to be able to come here, stand in, lean in maybe talk in to her ear and then come
back out when you need to.
The point is you don't want to be constantly imposing up on them, but you also
don't want to be constantly away. One mistake that we see guys make is they'll
come in, they'll start a conversation with the girl over their shoulder. They'll start
talking. She starts opening up a little bit. Maybe she's making some motions back
and she's gesticulating.
Then as she starts to shift towards them a little bit, maybe she's even indicating
she's engaged and she's giving you her hips, the problem that we see with some
guys is they'll actually turn away a little bit more. They'll want to keep playing
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hard to get. Wrong move. If you want to step back for a second. If we start talking
like this and then maybe you engage your hips towards me, I want to be able to
come back in like this. That's the importance of body movement.
Now here's one key thing. If you want to step back this way? You do not want to
be too jerky. You don't want to be like in and then out, in and then out. That's just
going to be weird. "Hey what's up? How are you doing? Oh yeah. That's great."
We see some guys again who are getting in to this stuff and not really sure of
what's going on. We see them almost over exaggerating their movements.
It should be a very smooth, natural thing. Here's rocking on your hips, and you're
rocking on your feet back and forth. I'm going to come in, I might say hello, come
back out, and give her some space. You can see at this point my hips aren't
committed, but there's a space right here. Now I'm going to come back in. I'm
going to say hello. Talk a little bit. "How are you? I know it's really loud in here so I
have to get close to talk to you." Then I can come back out and rock my hips back
out. It's really that simple with your body movement.
At the point where you're feeling like okay she's into me, she's engaged, et cetera,
et cetera. Maybe she really gives you her hips, now you can start to come in and
you can really get close with yours. Nick had some amazing things on Fearless that
we go into more in terms of standing here rocking with your hips moving like this,
but there's never a point where you want to be completely solidly standing still.
Even if you're standing like this you can still be rocking a little bit like that back
and forth. That's a little bit of body movement.
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Let's move on to talk about what's going on up here with your shoulders. The first
thing is you don't want to dance with your shoulders. That's a classic white guy
move. You want to dance with your hips, but if you want to move your shoulders,
what you don't want to do is you don't want to lean in. Right? This is ugly. Right?
Just watch what I do when I lean in and my shoulder's really imposing on her. No
bueno.
What you want to do instead is allow your hips to move in and then you just
move your head, but what we see some guys do is they'll talk to a girl like this.
Yeah. Just uncomfortable. They'll be standing and they'll be talking like this, and
there's all this space right here, but this is where they're trying to close the gap.
Not good.
You also don't want to slouch. Okay? We do see guys do this. You can see when I
slouch my belly sticks out and I have a little bit of a Buddha. It's just not sexy. You
definitely don't want to slouch your shoulders at all. Here's another thing we see
guys do, especially young guys, college guys, we see them be broad chested. They
stand like this. They'll walk up and they'll be like, "Hey. What's up?" You know?
That's not good either. You definitely don't want to be too broad chested and
consciously trying to do that.
Where do you rest your weight? This is a really key thing. Some guys do rest their
weight up here when they're trying to make their shoulders all straight, but you'll
feel the weight being rested up here. You want to feel the weight in your
shoulders being right around here towards the middle of your back. As long as
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you feel that you're supporting your shoulders in the middle of your back they'll
probably be in a good position.
Getting back to it, no leaning in, no slouching, no ridiculous broad shoulders. Just
rest your weight in the middle of your back, stand up straight, and that's good
posture right there. Putting it all together again, if I'm talking to her I'm going to
maybe walk in, say hello, lean in a little bit, come back out.
Now you notice one other little thing that I did there is my hand actually is going
to touch her where I lean in. On this side if I were to demonstrate this way I'd
probably lean in like this so you can see that I'm touching her just a little bit on
the elbow. Then I'm going to come back out, give her some space. Now we have
this back and forth and it's going to start to look like a dance.
If I were to come in talk to you like this now we're engaging and you're tilting your
hair you must like me. That's great. Now I'm going to come in this side. I'm going
to say that. Probably wouldn't put my hand on her hips that quickly, but you
never know. It's in a bar, there's alcohol. It just depends on the girl. I just got in
trouble. Anyways, those are some body movement things. Again very simple stuff,
but you got to get this stuff right. Rocking your hips, stand with your shoulders
straight, not too broad, no slouching, and just come in, come out. It's just that
simple. Wasn't that fun?
Let's move on to vocal tonality and pacing. This one's huge. Again, something that
I see a lot of guys over looking and not thinking about. This is something that I
give a lot of conscious thought to. I'm from the Midwest okay, and probably when
I was 18 or 19 I'm guessing that I talked a little bit like this. Well it probably wasn't
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that bad, but the pitch of my voice and the style of my communication have
evolved a lot.
I'll tell you this. The first time that I went out to California after being in Michigan I
was like, "Wow. People speak really cool out here. So much chiller. I really like it."
The first time I went to Texas after being in Michigan I was like, "Damn. This is a
real, real, real addictive accent." Then somehow when I moved up to New York I
never thankfully picked up the Brooklyn accent or the Queens accent. No offense
to anybody who lives in Stanton Island or any of the Burroughs.
This is something in my tonality used to be a lot higher too, and there's this great
Seinfeld episode where he talks about when you're first getting to know a girl
you're like, "Hey what's up?" Then after you've been on a few dates you're like,
"Hey what's up?" Then you're in a relationship and she calls you on the phone
you're like, "Hey how's it going baby?" Your vocal tonality just goes up and up and
up. That definitely happens. I'm not going to lie.
Point being it's a huge mechanism by which women are evaluating you. Again
something that is worth putting conscious effort into getting right. It's one of
these things it's not just what you say, it's how you say it. Think of it this way.
Right? If I were to say, "I love you so much." Right? I'm obviously being sarcastic
there. "I love you so much." Whatever. I obviously don't mean that.
Versus if I'm like flirting with a girl and I look at her in the eyes and I'm like, "I
can't stand you." Okay? I've got a little you can see it in my expression, but even if
you heard myself and a girl flirting over a microphone and there was no looking at
my face, you'd still be able to tell if she said, "Oh you're such a brat," and I was
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like, "I can't stand you." That's my tonality. Okay? That's what's making that
comment work. It's not the comment itself. It's just the tonality is what's doing it.
You got to speak in a way that's pleasurable for a woman to hear. If you again
step back to the metaphysics of it all to the communication channels, you don't
want to be shrill. You don't want to have a bad voice. I will tell you one other
story. The one time that I've tried online dating in my life, my buddy Race, he set
me up with a profile and I was out in Vegas. I came back to New York and I had all
these dates lined up and the first one I was like, "Oh yeah I'm so excited."
The first night I'm back in town. I hadn't spoken to this girl on the phone yet, and I
called her as I was getting to the place to let her know that I was there a little
early and I was going to be there. It went straight to her voice mail, and her voice
mail sounded like Ms. Piggy. "Hi. You have reached so-‐and-‐so." I was like, "Oh my
god. I'm going to spend the next hour with this girl." I immediately knew I wasn't
in to her.
All right we know the vocal tonality is important whether you're a man or a
woman who's boot legged a copy of this. What are the four good elements of
vocal tonality? The four elements of good vocal tonality? First one, you got to be
loud especially in a bar. Anywhere where you've got to fight over the din of the
noise around you you've got to be loud. I'm not speaking that loud right now
because heck I'm on camera. I got a little microphone right here. You've got to be
loud.
If you're not loud especially in a bar situation if she's got to work to hear you,
she's not going to want to talk to you. I can't tell you how many times I have been
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... Actually I can tell you. It's probably five or 10, but there have been times where
I've been out at bars and I have been talking to a girl and she's like, "What? What?
What?" I realize I'm not talking loud enough and by that time she is off. She's
gone. She's lost interest. If it's going to be too much work she's not going to want
to talk to you. Okay.
Speak slowly. Slowly it indicates that you take your thoughts seriously and it
indicates that you consider your thoughts important. This is a tough one for guys
to get right. I used to speak way fast. Super, super fast and sometimes if I'm really
caffeinated or excited about something I still speak fast. I promise you, you talk to
most guys who do well with women you'll see that they are not fast talkers. This is
something that they consciously work on. Slow it down for sure.
One of the exercises that I'm going to give you this week in the homework is to do
everything at 50%. I just want you to chill out, do it half speed. Just have a
conversation at 50%. You'll see how when you actually come back up you'll be
like, "Wow I talk so fast." You know, look, there's going to be times you can talk
fast. I'm not telling you talk slow as molasses all the time, but certainly when
you're getting close to a girl. If you want to get sexy you've got to slow down your
speech. Absolutely important.
Third thing is passion. You've got to speak with conviction. Not just passion, but
you got to speak with enthusiasm. Enthusiasm means you're happy. It means you
got a joie de vivre. It means that you are excited to be out and about and
communicating with people. It's directness that she can feel about just how great
you feel about yourself.
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Whether you're talking about something in your life or you're just asking her out
for drinks, speak with passion, speak with enthusiasm. That doesn't mean speak
super fast, it just means, "Yeah, you're great. Let's go out for drinks sometime."
You can see there's some enthusiasm in that even though I'm speaking slowly.
"Yeah, you're awesome. I'd love to get together with you again. Absolutely. Are
you kidding? Absolutely." You can hear that right?
Then the final thing and I mentioned this, you want to speak with depth. Depth
signals dominance and this is crazy, but the pitch of your voice is actually tied to
your hormone levels. Women subconsciously and biologically know that a man
with a deep voice is going to be hormonal let's say advantaged over a man with a
high voice. That's a little bit of the old science there for you.
That's your vocal tonality. That's your pacing. You got to slow it down. Got
to deepen it a little bit. Put some base in there, and definitely speak loud when
you're out at the bar, when you're in a noisy environment, and just speak with
conviction. Speak like you know you're a man who knows that he trusts the words
coming out of his mouth. That was a run on sentence right there right?
You know you're a man who knows that you trust the words that coming out of
your mouth, but even that if you speak with conviction by speaking slowly. You
know you're a man who knows that he trusts the words coming out of his mouth.
It's powerful sentence even though it means just about nothing. Go do the
homework. Absolutely get this right. You can not half ass this one. If you don't
have a good voice, if you haven't practiced this before definitely work on it.
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Let's move on and talk about your vibe. This is one of those words that, I don't
know. When I was 16 or 17 I was like, "That's the stupidest word I've ever heard in
my life." Then I got older and I realized that actually does mean something and it
means something specific for two adults who are having a good interaction with
each other. Your vibe is the sum of all your body movements and it's also
reflective of the energy that somebody else is giving you.
It reflects your comfort level in the environment that you're in. If you out a night
club and you're not super comfortable there your vibe is going to be a lot
different than if you're lounging around at home in your pj's eating some Ben &
Jerry's. It is an expression of how much physical energy that you have literally
within your body. It's an expression of how sexual you are. Taht's certainly
something that comes out in your vibe.
It's something that shows how that energy is expressed. You might have a lot of
sexual energy that gets expressed slowly. You might have a high degree of
physical energy that every now and then gets very sexual. You might be super
neurotic. I'm sure you've been around people before who you just get this feeling
from when they're around you it's like, "Whoa way too much energy there." Like,
"Whoa back off." It can be very smooth. It can be very harsh. You could be all over
the place.
It is linked to your mood state. We've talked about this. I think we talked about it
in lesson one that whole notion of state and state being like a driver of whether
you've got good game or not. I don't want you to get too hung up on this stuff. If
your whole attitude is I got to get into a good state so I get a good vibe so the girls
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like me, that's just going to totally throw everything off. Obviously you want to be
having fun when you go out. You don't want to feel physically depressed.
What is going to affect your mood and your state? Social momentum. That's a
huge thing. Start fricking talking to people the moment you step out the door, the
moment you get into the bar, wherever. Just start talking to people. Even if it's
little itty bitty conversations. That's going to have a huge affect on your mood and
your state. Then of course your beliefs. You know the things you believe about
yourself and the things we've worked on in the last lesson about the mindset
shifts that you have and the way that you feel about these things. Those will all
affect your vibe.
Let me give you some specifics about vibe that you can take into your own
interactions. A huge one, this is absolutely, absolutely, absolutely critical, any guys
good with girls will tell you the same, and I know that because whenever I meet
guys and I talk with them about this they're all like, "Yeah, that's huge." The first
one is non-‐attachment, non-‐neediness, and basically giving a girl space. Okay?
You got to give her space. What do we mean by that? We basically mean that very
early on the interaction hasn't given you anything yet.
You see a girl from across the room. You're like, "Oh she's so hot. I want to talk to
her." She hasn't given you anything back yet. Maybe she gives you some eye
contact, but beyond that she hasn't put money in your pocket, nothing like that.
You don't need her approval. That's the key point. You see her from across the
room and you're like, "Oh she's a cute girl. I think I'll go talk to her. What's up?"
You got to be happy with who you are independent of what she thinks. Okay? You
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don't want to invest too much in the interaction because the interaction hasn't
given you anything back.
How does it feel when you are attached to a girl? Well when you're talking to her
your eyes are going to be darting around a little bit. You're going to be nervous.
When you finally do lock eye contact with her you might be a little too over eager.
Like "Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah." What it really feels like more than anything is you
care about her approval. Again, I'm sure that you've been in these situations
before where you've had somebody around you. Imagine somebody sitting here
and I'm like, "Ah too much. Too much." That's not a good vibe.
You definitely want to at the initial stages, when you start getting really good at
this stuff throw all this out the window, but the initial stages you want to give
yourself space with a girl. You want to be able to feel her, feel when she's
comfortable letting you have more space. At the initial stages you just don't want
to ... Let me make very clear what I mean about this. You don't want to stand five
feet back. Okay? That's not what I mean when I say give her space.
What I mean when I say give her space is do the stuff I was talking about in the
demonstration of the body language in terms of rocking in, rocking out, allowing
her to feel your absence and then to come back in with your presence. That's
what's really critical. If you're just all presence all the time then she's going to feel
like, "Oh this guy needs my approval." That's not good.
Moving on. Vibe specific. Enjoying yourself. Why is this important? Well it shows
you're always having a great time regardless of the outside circumstances. That's
pretty key. How does it feel when you're not enjoying yourself? How can you do a
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little temperature check in your head like, "Oh I'm not enjoying myself right
now?"
Sometimes you're giving her the ability to approve of you or not. We call that
giving her the frame. If you're just giving it up to her, if you're like, "Please accept
me. Please." If that's what's going on up here you know you're not enjoying
yourself. You're enjoying yourself when you're like, "Let's see what she's all
about." That's when you know you are enjoying yourself.
If you're not 100% sure of your words you're not really enjoying yourself because
you're all up in your head. If you are enjoying yourself you're not even thinking
about your words. You're just coming out of your mouth like, "Oh yeah. Blah,
blah, blah, blah, blah. You know? It's cool."
Another sign that you're not enjoying yourself is not talking and interacting with
people just for the sake of talking. One of the things that I discovered awhile ago
is I love to talk in accents even though I'm absolutely terrible at it. I lived with an
English guy for three years. I can't speak with an English accent for shit, but I still
quite like trying to affect a bit of a British accent. It's just fun for me to talk like
that. I usually can't get more then two sentences in until somebody's like, "God,
that is a terrible, terrible accent you're doing." I enjoy it. That's the point.
The counterpoint to that would be just not even enjoying the words coming out
of my mouth. Not wanting to talk, et cetera, et cetera. Have fun when you talk.
Heck if you need to talk with an accent, talk with an accent. If you need to quote a
Simpson's character, quote a Simpson's character. Whatever it is. Those are the
things that are going to allow you to enjoy yourself.
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Another very important thing in your vibe is to be non-‐threatening. This is
obviously important because if you come off as a threat to her her defenses are
going to go up. How does threatening look? Well it's invading her personal space
in the wrong way. It's not smiling. It's a lack of facial expressiveness and
expressiveness in general. It's those two things together. What we can do is we
can actually invade her space, but still back out. We can invade her space and still
smile and still be fun and playful and all that.
I'm going to give you a video demonstration of that in just a second. What is
threatening is when we are all up in her and then we like ... That's just weird for
her. That's super creepy. Let's jump into the video demonstration real quick of
how non-‐threatening versus threatening looks, and then we'll be right back into it
with the vibe.
Okay. Cool. Jumping back in now. Let's talk about sexuality. Okay. Sexuality I
alluded to this in the last one threatening versus non-‐threatening, but you can
definitely start to do things with your vibe that are more sexual and more fun. In
Unbreakable we talk about calibrating to the environment and how receptive she
is. If you're in a club you can be a lot more sexual than if you are in a bookstore. If
that doesn't make obvious sense to you and you didn't even know that already
then I'm shocked. I just think you're smarter than that. I'm sure you know that
already.
The point is you do want to calibrate your environment, but here's the key point
that you may or may not think about is that even if you know that you're allowed
to be more sexual in a bar or a club you probably are not being more sexual in a
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bar or a club. You're probably still holding back and treating her as if it was a
damn coffee shop. Allow yourself to be a little bit more physically expressive
when you're in these environments when you can be. Just allow that for yourself.
See how it feels. See how it works.
You want to introduce sexuality. It really depends. Sometimes you can do it right
away. Sometimes you want to just spend some time getting into it. The point is
you do want to do it. You can't be that guy who's just like, "Oh. Yeah." There have
definitely been times when I've been out, maybe you've had these conversations
before where they're like great, friendly, rapport based conversations, and you're
like, "This girl's really digging me. She's been talking to me a lot."
Then all of a sudden she just bounces. Gone. You're like, "What the heck
happened there? She didn't even say good bye. She didn't blah, blah, blah." If this
conversation has happened to you before at the bar the reason why that
happened is because you were not sexual enough with her. She was into you. If
there wasn't attraction she wouldn't have been talking there in the first place.
You had a good vibe, a good chemistry, but you were not sexual enough.
At a certain point she realized, "Okay this guy doesn't want anything from me. I'm
interested in moving things forward, but he's not. He's not making the move. Nah,
I'm just out." The reason the girls bounce in those situations they don't want to
say, "Oh good bye. I guess I'll maybe see you around. Maybe we'll run into each
other again." They don't want to put themselves out there like that.
Again, if you've had that situation before, why? It's because you have not been
sexual enough. Hey look. You can assume it's on with girls once you know how to
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make her feel comfortable with yourself. Once you especially know that the
dance, the back and forth, the ins and outs with the body language stuff, the body
movement stuff, you can definitely assume it's on and just go in and escalate real
quickly.
Familiarity, that's another really critical vibe specific. This one is it's just so
important. Basically familiarity it's assuming that there is a pre-‐existing
relationship. Okay? This will be huge for you if you put a lot of importance on
having the right things to say. Being familiar with a girl means that basically you
assume that you're already accepted by her when you approach her, and it means
that you don't have to preamble. You can jump in to the middle of a conversation.
Just thinking about the last time this happened to me I was out, and sitting nearby
some girls, and overheard their conversations. As I was walking by I heard them
saying something. I think they were saying, "Well should we go out tonight?" They
were already out, and they were like, "Well should we make it a big night or
should we make it a small one?" I just jumped in the conversation. "Well you got
to know if you want to go out, or if you want to go out-‐out. Those are two pretty
big different things. Let's figure this out. Are we going to go out or are we going to
go out-‐out you guys?" Again I just assumed that I was a part of that group and
assumed familiarity in that situation.
Another time was walking down the street and I heard two girls talking and one of
them said, "Yeah you know and I invited her to my birthday and she didn't come
to mine." I was right next to them, and I looked over and I was like, "Don't you
hate it when that happens? My birthday was not that long ago and there were
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few people this year I specifically attended their events because I was hoping they
would come to mine. No shows. I felt like the biggest loser in the world and I had
to cry with my dog."
I threw in a little joke there. A little self deprecating thing that was obviously
absurd about crying with my dog. We'll get in to all that stuff later. The point is
that by assuming familiarity and by jumping in to that they laughed. They opened
right up. She comes back at me, she's like, "I know. Don't you hate it. I don't even
have a dog to cry with. It was just the worst birthday ever." I was like, "Well next
year we're both going to have good birthdays. What's your name?" Bam. Into the
conversation. Just so easy because I assumed that I was already part of the
conversation.
Again, it's not that hard you just have to pick up the conversation. Just assume
they want to talk to you. If the back's closed off, it's a little bit tougher. Just make
sure the logistics are working for you. That's how I'd assume familiarity and those
are some general things that go into your vibe.
Again, this vibe stuff it's one of those things that you'll feel more than you can
understand. What I'm trying to do here is give you a couple of internal way-‐points
of, "I feel that and so I know that my vibe is off," or, "I feel that so I know that my
vibe is on." Look for those way-‐points. I've got some homework for you
specifically around looking for way-‐points about the vibe. If you're feeling it great,
take it to the last level.
Now the last element of nonverbal communication I want to talk to you about
today is something that nobody ever talks about, but I like to talk about because
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it's real important. It's called swagger. There's a lot of ways you can describe it.
You could call it swagger. You could call it your presence. You could call it your
force. You could call it your mojo, whatever. Swagger's putting it all together and
feeling like a bad ass.
I like to think about Vinny Chase in Entourage. You watch a couple of seasons of
that show, you'll get a really good sense of what swagger is. It's just how he
carries himself. It's a lightness. It's like, "Ah you know, I could take it or leave it."
It's giving himself permission to approach people and permission to talk to
whomever he wants. It's having that confidence inside of himself. "Yeah, I'm bad
ass. What's you story all about? You know? Who are you? Let's have fun."
It's all these things. It's how you move. It's how you look at a girl. It's how you
escalate. It's really an elusive coolness that is hard to put your finger on, but we're
going to work on putting your finger on it. The first thing you want to think about
if you've been with a woman before is how do you move and how do you feel the
night after you've been with a woman for the first time. If you've had that
experience, and I hope you have, then you know it.
You're just like, "Yeah. Good shit happened last night." You have this different
feeling about you. You're like, "Okay. I got something done I needed to get done.
I'm feeling good about myself." That's the best way that I can teach you how to
think about how to feel about it. It's not something again that you can just turn
on, but it's something you can start to feel and start to bring on to the world.
You also want to find models of behavior. Guys who have good swagger. You
watch them and feel stuff with us. Again, watch some Entourage. Watch Vinny
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Chase. That guy has swagger like I've never seen. Even a rap star. Most rap stars
have mad swagger. You watch Jay-‐Z when he talks to people, it's ridiculous.
In terms of putting it into practice, this is the fun part. I do want you for at least
one chunk of time this coming week, when you go out I want you to walk with
swagger. Just like you're the shit. You give yourself permission to do whatever you
want. You're totally stepping out of your world and you're just like, "Yeah. I'm the
man."
Again, it's all these things together. It's having a great time, it's having fun, it's
giving yourself permission, it's being a little sexy, but also being a little elusively
cool. See if you could put that stuff all together. This is the pinnacle of when you
get your nonverbals right. It's not something that anyone can teach. It's only
something that you can feel in your heart and express through your body. When
you get your swagger right, those are beautiful, beautiful nights.
I want you to just try walking around with what you think swagger might be for an
hour or two, talk to some girls, definitely report it back in the forums. That's
something that I want to hear about with your experience. Some guys when
we've taught that to them before they just get it. I'll share one last story with you.
This comes from a boot camp experience that we were running. We had one
client who man he was just having the toughest time.
He was really getting hung up on that first thing to say, and the initial part of the
interaction. I was really trying to get granular with him. I was like, "Well first walk
up and say, 'Oh man it's so warm in here,' and then say, 'I could really use some
sort of summer fun break. I'd love to go out on a slip and slide. Wouldn't it be
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great to have a slip and slide at the park?'" I gave him this long script, and it
wasn't a routine. It was just a bunch of topics that you could jump to.
He's practicing this with our female coach Jody, and Jody's a really pretty girl and I
think again he really wasn't feeling himself. He walks up to her. He throws it all
together, and he looks at her he goes, "Wow it's really hot in here. You'd look
great on a slip and slide right now." Everything that I had told him to say came
together and compressed into one really awkward statement.
Now we all had a good laugh, but clearly this whole method of thinking through
things was just not working for him. Nick and Jody looked at each other like is it
time for the hip hop exercise, and she's like, "Yeah it's time for the hip hop
exercise." The other funny thing about Jody is she's a really sweet white girl, and
she looks like the last person you'd see throwing out gang symbols and getting
down or whatnot.
The hip hop exercise that we pulled out for this client was basically he had to
approach her. He couldn't say anything that we told him to say. The only thing we
gave him was, "How's your night going?" Except he had to talk like a gangster. He
had to walk up and be like, "Yo girl, what's up? How you doing? You have a good
night?" Then she had to give him that energy back, and she's like, "Yeah boy. I'm
having a great night. How you doing?" He's like, "Yeah, I'm having a great night.
What brings you out tonight girl?" They just started going into this. Right?
That's the extreme example of swagger. That's just a person who is so feeling
himself, like he's expressing with all of his body and all that. That clicked. That
night he ended up some crazy stuff happened with the prettiest girl who he had
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ever talked to in his life. Now this guy's a rock star in his social circle. I haven't
talked to him in the last month or two but I know he had some great girls in his
life. Let's leave it at that.
I don't know if you want to go that far. That can definitely be fun if you're out
with your buddies, but that is swagger. It's a feeling that you have and it's
something that totally dominates over that voice in your head, any thinking that
you need to do about these are my words, these are the things that I have to say.
Have fun with that one. Don't be a gangster. Don't be concealing any weapons if
you're in a state that that's not allowed in. Definitely have fun with the swagger,
and report back on that one.
All right. Now I got something really cool for you. This is called nonverbal openers.
Nonverbal openers are something we came up with after spending a lot of time,
probably too much time, at the bar and realizing that a lot of the stuff we were
doing to make things easier on ourselves was not stuff that we'd heard anybody
really teach.
Basically is what this is using the nonverbal communication channel to
communicate parts of your personality. To communicate the fact that you have a
sense of humor. To communicate your confidence, your self enjoyment. Just
everything you want to communicate verbally, you're going to be doing this
nonverbally and you're going to be doing this before you even start a
conversation.
I've put together a separate video, and at the time I sit down to record this the
video that I put together is about a year old. I think I have a little bit more hair in
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it, but it's a great video. We're just going to hop over to that right now so you can
see what these nonverbal openers look like. Basically what we're doing is we're
just starting a conversation from across the room. We're catching some eye
contact and then we're going to use it to start that conversation. Let's hop into
that video. Let's see what some of these nonverbal openers look like because
there's some awesome ones in there. I'll catch you back over here as soon as
we're done watching that.
We're going to be demonstrating a nonverbal opener which is called the curious
look. How it's going to start is I'm going to be looking over here as if my attention
is on a friend or something else that has my interest in this direction. I'm going to
come over this way. I'm going to catch your attention and give you the curious
look. It's going to look something like this.
What I've done is effectively I've moved over here. I've stepped back a little bit as
if I was just hit by something that surprised me, and I tilt my head to the side and I
squint my eye a little bit as if to say, "What is this that I see? Do I know you? How
do we know each other?" If she gives any response from that point I'm good to
go.
In this demonstration we're going to be looking at the nonverbal opener called
the point. Now this one's real silly, and it can be fun. It's essentially looking at a
girl and pointing at her, and there's a number of ways that you can do this. Again
I'm going to be looking over here talking to a friend going like this. I'm going to
catch a girl's eye and go like. It's almost like a, "You? Are you the one?"
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Again, let's see how that looks without me talking and annotating this. You can
even add that finger wag at the end to go shame on you or I thought so or I
caught you. That can be especially fun if you catch her doing that and she goes
like, or maybe she just shrugs here shoulders. You're definitely in a conversation
at that point.
In this demonstration now we're going to be looking at the nonverbal opener
called the, "Oh god it's you," look. This is a favorite of Nick's, and it's really fun. It's
really goofy, and if you do this right you can start the conversation off with a cute
little role play. You can go right from this saying, "Oh my god I can't believe I ran
into you here. This is so embarrassing. What do I say?"
It's going to start with you looking over here again. You're talking to a friend.
You're enjoying his company. You see the girl, and you're going to stop, act as if
you are trying to figure out who it is, and then all of a sudden go, "Oh." What you
want to do, you want to make sure that you follow that up with a smile because
at this point she's a little confused. She's saying, "What is this guy making this face
at me for? Is there something wrong here? What's going on?" If you don't follow
it up with a smile she's just going to be utterly perplexed.
Let's look at this again in action. How it might look. Again, you're going to go in
with that smile and you're going to follow up and say, "God this is so
embarrassing," from here, and if you did this right, if you executed it properly, she
might even give it back to you. She might play along and you've got a great
conversation started.
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We're going to look at a nonverbal opener now called the mean face. This one's
real silly. Nick loves to do this one. I'm not as big of a fan, but it can be very
effective if you're in the right mood to do it. Essentially you're just going to really
give a girl a pouty face. Everything is going to condense around the center of your
face. If she gives it back to you it's a great way to go in there and say, "God I hate
you so much," as a way to start the conversation. It's really funny and I will admit
that the times I've done this I've had a lot of fun with it.
Let's see how this might look. I'm gong to be looking this direction. Again talking
to a friend. I'm going to see her. I'm just going to start pouting like ... Okay. I'm
going to lean in a little bit and again I know that looks real silly. If you've never
done this before you might have a hard time pulling it off the first time, but I
promise you if you find a fun girl, if you find the right girl and you catch her in the
right moment she'll give it right back to you. Let's see it without my annotations
here.
Again, you're coming in with your face. You're just giving her that real mean,
squinty-‐eyed, what are you doing here look. She's going to follow it up with
something equivalent and if she goes from there then fantastic. You've just
started a great conversation.
All right. Cool. That was at the old apartment by the way. That was a crazy
apartment. I hope that was helpful for you. I know that every time we teach these
to guys and they go out and they use nonverbal openers they get mad results.
Great stuff. I want to give you some nonverbal openers to use right now. I want
you to enjoy these.
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Okay, so those are some nonverbal openers right there, and that was back from
my old apartment. Again, that was probably a year and a half ago from now, from
when I recorded that last, but I know there's some great stuff in there. Every time
we give these to guys and they go out and they use them they're amazed at the
results they get, and they have a lot of fun with this stuff.
I'm going to tell you how to use these right now. Okay? It's a multi-‐step process,
but we won't make it too complicated. The first one is you want to catch her eye.
It's best if you catch her eye when you're smiling. Obviously you do this at bars
and places where people are being social so kind of looking around. You're talking
to your buddies. Whatever. You got a smile on your face. You look over, you catch
her eye. You do a little double take. Right?
Now hopefully you got some eye contact. Look away real quick and look back. If
you guys had that same thing going on, if she caught your eye the way that you
caught hers than when you look away and you look back, she's going to look away
and she looks back. Now, drop the smile. Just completely drop the smile. Change
your expression or whatever. If you have a smile, you're like. Now, she's like,
"Whoa, what's he thinking?" Look confused momentarily as if you're trying to
figure out what's going on, and then you want to do the opener.
That's how you do it. You basically switch from a smile to you drop the smile,
change your expression, look confused, and then do it. If we were sitting right
here and we were doing it. You'd look like this. I'm looking around, I'm smiling, I
catch you. Then like I'm going to do it. It was very quick, but let's look at that one
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more time. I'm going to smile, drop the smile, look confused, and then like go into
whatever I was going to go into.
Let's just do that again. I'm looking like this. Looking around, talking to my friends,
smiling. Catch the eye contact like ... Okay so that's it. That confused look that's
really important. The confused look is that's the natural look that a lot of people
have of, "Do I know you?" Even if she knows that she doesn't know you, when we
see that look we are naturally compelled to respond to it and to continue to look
at that person.
Here's the key point. Once you've done that nonverbal opener, don't do another
one. Don't just go back and forth on this five times. I've tried that before with
tongue sticking out in one and eventually she gets bored and she's like, "When's
this damn guy going to come talk to me?" Just do it, and then assuming she gives
you any sort of good response give her a nice warm smile and then go over and
talk to her. Be like, "You silly girl. How did I know that you would be here
tonight?"
Something like that. It can be just that easy. Don't linger on nonverbal opener too
long. Just go over there and start having the conversation with her. This is going
to rock. Please go out and do a nonverbal opener or two or five or 20 this week.
You're going to love it.
All right, now lesson two about how to start a conversation. I've given you a lot at
this point. I haven't given you too many words to say and that's what I'm going to
give you right now is some things to have coming out of your mouth. What's the
easiest way to start a conversation? Not going to just walk up and say, "Hello," to
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a girl. That's why we made this program Say Hello. No, where do most guys go
wrong? We either talk too much, we talk too little, or we say stupid stuff.
If you're an over talker listen up. Here is what's going on and what you need to do
instead. If you're an over talker you're usually thinking you need to demonstrate
value and you need to prove yourself to a person. Just not true. It works in
reverse. You demonstrate value by having less to say and having cooler stuff to
say when you actually say it, and having nonverbals to go with that. You do not
demonstrate value by talking too much. Let's just make that crystal clear right
now.
When you're nervous you can talk too much. That's often how we deal with
nervousness. When we don't feel comfortable making a girl work for us. Again,
that goes back to point number one, but heck this still happens to me. I met an
author who I really respect and really look up to. This was maybe three, four
weeks ago, but it's a dude. I really respect him and I didn't want to make him
work. I was like, "Oh I'm going to make this conversation easy for him." I realized
that about half way through. I slowed down. I stopped talking so much. It's all
good.
We also just talk too much when we don't believe in ourselves. We don't believe
that we're even allowed to be there, so we think if I just get more and more and
more words out here then I'm allowed to be here. None of those things are true,
and if any of those things resonate with you then that's probably why you're
talking too much so just recognize that. Recognize you're a cool dude. You don't
need to talk that much. You can pull it back a little bit.
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On the other hand there's talking too little. There's some guys that just have
nothing to say. We're going to get to that whole running out of things to say bit in
a little bit, but people who talk to little what I'm talking about is people who are
like, "I'm too cool for school. I'm James Bond. I don't need to say anything." Heck,
that's not good.
When we don't know how to make small talk into big talk that's when we talk too
little. When you don't know how to transition into bigger topics. When we can't
lead a conversation we sometimes talk too little. When we don't have anything to
talk about. We're going handle all those things. Those are going to be primarily
things that we talk about in lesson three, but those are all talking too little things.
Finally saying stupid things when we're uncalibrated or sometimes we're just
learning a new form of humor and we don't pull it off right. Sometimes it's just
generally offensive or stupid. I'm going to give you some stuff that is funny ways
to introduce humor in to the conversation right off the bat, but you might have to
work on it a little bit and it might not come out right so you might struggle with it
a little bit. If you say something stupid, hey don't worry about it. There's a lot of
other stupid people out there too, but more importantly if you say something
stupid it's not the end of the world. Just recognize that you said something stupid
and chillax.
What's the right way to do it instead? Very simple. Make some eye contact with
the person. This is the right way to approach a girl. Make the eye contact with her
Approach her with confident body language as I demonstrated earlier. You don't
need to make a big show of it. Shoulders back and blah, blah, blah. Good enough.
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Say hi, smile, and just wait for her to say hi back. That's the very first thing you
have to do. Then just make a situational comment, make a compliment, and just
don't talk too much and that's it.
Let's jump in to some example compliments, comments, whatever you want to
do. One of the things that we use often on our coaching programs, and guys are
always a little disappointed when they hear that this is the go to opener, but for
guys who aren't skilled at this and who haven't been doing opening for a long
time this is what we usually like to start them off with. We like to find girls who
are open, who are having fun, send them in to those conversations and have the
guy say, "Hey, what's up you guys? You look like you're enjoying yourselves
tonight." Then the girls are usually like, "Yeah you know, we are." Then follows
up, "So what brings everybody out this evening?"
That's it. Its just that easy. Here's the key point. You do want to stop in between
those two to allow them to answer. What you don't want to do is you don't want
to walk up and say, "Hey what's up? You guys look like you're having fun. What's
bringing everybody out?" You're just throwing a lot of information out there.
Instead, "Hey what's up? You guys look like you're having fun." Pause. Make eye
contact with everybody in the group. They're like, "Yeah. Yeah." Be like, "Cool.
What brings everybody out tonight?" They give a little bit back. "Nice. Nice. Nice.
You know my buddies and I," blah, blah, blah. You start talking about yourself or
you could start teasing them if they give you something else worth teasing.
That's how you would do that, but you definitely want to put that space in there.
You want them to allow them to respond to your presence. Again, some guys just
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barge in before the girls even have their attention they're like, "Hey what's up
guys? You look like you're having fun tonight. What brings everybody out?"
They're like, "Whoa where the heck did that guy come from?" Don't be that guy.
I give you another example of this is an opener that I used specifically as I was
walking down the street. It was just drizzling a little bit. I had an umbrella with
me, and I just whipped it open, held it up, and was like, "Hey. Here you go." The
girl's like, "Oh thanks." I know that some guys that study game. They look to tease
her at every moment. They'd be like, "How could you possibly forget your
umbrella?" I'm not going to do that before offering the umbrella first. That's just
situation example.
Another great one if you just see one girl. "You look like somebody I wanted to
meet. What's your name?" Again, if you just say it really easy. Just not that hard.
"You look like somebody I wanted to meet. What's your name?" It's a great
opener.
Let's look at a few others. This one I learned from my buddy Paul. Paul lives in
New York here, and he's got a great one where he'll look at a girl's shopping bag
and he'll say, "Oh hey," if it's a Gucci bag let's say. "Hey, do you know where the
Gucci store is around here? I was at the other location and they told me to come
up here, but I can't find it." She'll be like, "Oh yeah, yeah. Blah blah." He'll be like,
"Oh cool. Hey what you'd get?" That's a great one. Taht's a really, really easy one.
Just starts the conversation off right.
Another one is if girls are getting silly. If you're standing next to them, this is
especially the case in a bar, you can be standing next to them, look over here.
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They're doing something silly. They're laughing and taking shots or whatever.
"Damn I look over in this direction for what like two seconds and everything is
crazy. What are you guys up to?" That's a real funny one.
Let's see. Some other things. If you're passing by a girl who's eating a salad you
can say something as simple as, "Hey. You enjoying your salad?" Again, I'm just
trying to point out this stuff does not have to be that hard. Any of these things
will start conversations.
The whole point of this and this is what I want you to take away. I just gave you
some really dumb openers there. There's some good ones in there too. You'll
come up with many on your own. The best openers you usually find are
situational openers where you're just standing next to somebody and start
chatting with them. The opener does not matter. What happens next does
matter. Where you take it once you open the conversation, but the point of the
first words out of your mouth is to get their attention. Okay? That's all that
matters.
You are not trying to get acceptance or rejection from the first words out of your
mouth. That’s far too soon. Okay? You have at least three more words. No, I'm
just kidding. The point of the opener is to get their attention. It's to get them
looking at you and if you've got a good vibe and you are generally comfortable
with yourself then that's all that's happening. Your opener is there to get her
attention.
Again, I know those are some silly openers, but they're really easy to use. I'm
going to give you some more in the homework, and just go out and use them. Do
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not hold yourself back. I want you to go out and just be getting people's attention
this week and thinking about your vibe. Of course, review the material. Take
notes about what your strengths and weaknesses are in this vibe stuff and figure
out what you need to work on and you better put this into practice out in the
field. If you're not putting in the practice you're not getting the maximum benefit
out of it.
I hope you enjoyed this. Go out. Say hello to a couple girls. Take the pressure off
yourself. Have fun. Get that swagger for a couple hours, and I will catch you in the
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What's up? It's Christian Hudson and you are watching Say Hello, episode 3 at this
very minute in your life. I'm so excited for you to be joining us for this particular
episode because there is so much cool stuff in here about what to say and how to
flirt and how to get her to open up. This is the exact stuff that I wish someone had
given me years and years and years and years back. I haven't seen it anywhere
else, on anything I've ever read. To the best of my knowledge, this is the only
place where you can be getting the information you're about to get right now.
I'm almost so excited that I wish I was standing up but then I wouldn't be sitting
down and I like sitting down. Let's jump into it right now. We're just going to start
talking about what is an opener, why it works and how you're going to be doing
them. What is an opener? An opener is basically the first three to five minutes of
the conversation. A lot of guys think that an opener is the very first word out of
your mouth but an opener is really the first three to five minutes of the
conversation.
It's your words, it's your body, it's your presence. The presence is very important.
A lot of guys often overlook that. It's not just the first line. It's the subsequent
lines and the back and forth. Your opener is essentially the thing that lets you get
into the point where she wants you to stay there or she wants you to leave.
What is your goal with the opener? I thought about this a lot because I used to go
into conversations and I would try to be really cool or I try to be laid back or
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maybe I try to be over the top. After a ton and ton and a lot of approaches, I
realize that the best approaches had three things in common. Whenever I went in
with this mindset, even if it was subconscious, it worked out for me.
What is your goal with the opener? It is, one, to capture her attention. Two, to
arouse her emotion. Three, to create intrigue and or a hook. Let's go back over
those. Capture her attention, arouse her emotion and intrigue her. Were going to
be going into those in a lot more depth and with a lot more examples.
Let's talk at a high level about what capturing her attention means. You're at a
bar. She's walking. She's there, maybe she's walking down the streets and you see
her. Maybe you're at a coffee shop and she's reading her book or whatever. You
got to capture her attention. She must focus on you instead of everything else
around her. That is critical. If you're in a bar, she's got to be able to hear you.
That's really important. Your body when you approach her, it should be imposing
but not invasive so she should feel your presence but not be creeped out by it.
Now, if you've been following along with the whole Say Hello course then you
know that we talked about this in the previous episode which is all about how to
have great nonverbals when you approach a woman.
Again, you want to get her focused on you. That means that you have to be okay
in the spotlight and even want it. When you see a group of girls who you want to
approach, you have to be okay with them putting all of their attention on you. If
you can't get that, if you don't want that, then you're going to lose out on the
opportunity to really captivate them.
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This is where the power of presence comes in. All of those things we worked on in
the last week, the vibe, the tonality, the nonverbals, the way you make eye
contact, your presence is going to have just as much of an impact on her as the
works you say. We demonstrated a little bit of that in some video last week. If
that didn't click for you then I want you to go back and I want you to watch it
again. If you're really having a hard time with it then come in, get some coaching
with us.
The point is, your presence captures her attention as much as anything else. The
biggest mistake that I see that guys make and we see this weekend after weekend
with our coaching programs is guys who are too timid to get a girl's attention.
They stand too far back. Their voice is too low. They're just afraid of her looking at
him like being hit with a spotlight of her eyes. Admittedly, it can be a sort of scary
thing if you haven't done it before but it's definitely something that you have to
be comfortable with if you're going to approach girls. You have to get their
attention.
The reversal of the mistake is that we do see some guys who just push their way
in. They get way too close way too soon. This is specially the case for a lot of guys
who we see who read a lot of pick up literature. They just feel like they can get
really close really soon. We want you to be confident. We want you to be
asserted but we do not want you to be overwhelming. Again, this is a nuance
thing. You can feel if you're being overwhelming because she starts to back up.
You can feel if you're not being close enough because she is straining to hear
what you have to say and she just doesn't really want to talk to you.
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This is a self check. It's very easy to perform. If she seems semi engaged, as in
she's not backing away from you and like, "Oh my God, who is this guy all over
me?" If she seems like she's actually talking to you and she's not struggling to
hear what you're saying, you've got her attention or you've got the group's
attention. That's great.
Next thing you got to do is to arouse the emotion of the girl or the group. You
have to make her feel something in your presence. It could be anything. It could
be humor. It could be suspense. It could be drama. The bombing openers can
even get her to feel disgust. But whatever it is, it must rise above her current
experience. You can make this possible with your words or with your presence.
If you've ever watched Nick approach a girl, sometimes you'll see that he's just so
sexual with his presence that he can arouse her emotions just with his presence
and his eye contact alone. I'm going to be giving you a whole lot of stuff about
how to do this with your words. We're not going to worry about your presence
just yet. As long as you're not screwing your presence up, you're fine.
What is the big mistake that we see guys make? It's guys who are unemotional
themselves, who are boring or who are too nice. You know what I mean, just this
past weekend, as I sit down to record this, we were out at a boot camp at a bar
here in the East Village in New York, I saw this guy walk up to some girls, standard
conversation. "Hey, guys. How's your night going?" "Good." "What brings
everybody out tonight?" "Oh, not much." "What are you celebrating?" There's no
emotion in that conversation. Nothing. He's just asking questions and he's not
even feeling emotion himself.
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I mean, you could go up and conceivably do something like that if you were
somewhat emotional by the way, "Guys, what's up? How's your night going?" If
they're feeling a good vibe too then it's really easy to walk in with it. "Oh, good.
Good, good." "How's your night going? What's up? What brings everybody out?
What are you celebrating?" There's a little bit of emotion. That's a really easy
opener to use. We're going to be getting a lot better stuff than that. But the point
is that when I watched this guy do it, and I've seen clients do this too. They
struggle with a simple line like that because there's no emotion in the way that
they're communicating.
You've got to arouse her emotion and make her feel something in your presence
that makes her feel good or bad or whatever. It just can't be boring. It's got to
something that makes her feel. That's going to cause the engagement. That's
going to be the thing that makes her stick to you is when you create emotion.
Now, here's the reversal to that. I'll make this point again a little bit later, the
more that you arouse in her, the faster that you've got to be with your tongue,
with your wit, on your feet.
We've talked about the bombing openers extensively. We're going to talk about
about them again. bombing openers arouse suspense and almost disgust and you
can reverse them but you can't reverse them if you're slow witted. You've got to
be quick. The faster that you arouse her emotion, the quicker you've got to be.
That's we'd like them because they get you thinking quickly. If you want to start
off a little slower, we're going to give you some things that are going to ease you
right into it.
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Part three. You've got her attention. You've started to stir some emotion up. Now,
you've got to create some intrigue. Intrigue is a cool stuff. You've got to make her
want to know, "Who is this guy? Why should I continue to keep talking to him?"
By this point, the interaction should be leveling out. Maybe not 50/50 but maybe
at least 60/40 where you're putting in 60% of the effort. She's putting in 40% of
the effort. Now, you can do this with humor, you can do this with presence. You
can do this with conversational baits. I'm going to give you a whole bunch of stuff
in a little bit about creating intrigue.
But the key point about intrigue is the conversation is beginning to transition
from stuff in the world to you and her. That's the key thing. She's starting to say,
"Who is this guy?" Not what what are we talking about but who is this guy who I
am talking to. You're trying to get her to open up and share who is this girl. The
biggest mistake that we see guys make in this little area is that guys who never
talk about themselves. Guy who just ... they keep asking question after question
after question, they never talk about themselves. The reversal of that is there are
guys who talk too much. I know, I certainly used to be one of those. In my off
moments, I still am. You've got to be able to pause and allow her to give you
space.
We're going to be talking about a whole lot of techniques but let's just put it all
together and recap those again. A, sense her attention, emotion, intrigue. Those
are the three critical parts of your opener. It can actually happen before you even
open your mouth. You can be standing next to a girl at a bar or maybe get some
eye contact from her from across the room, just kind of like do a nonverbal
opener, get her engaged with you and all that.
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Or this can be the sort of thing that's a slow burning fuse. It can take three
minutes, five minutes, 10 minutes. It can even take two interactions. You might
open her up, and we're going to talk about this in a little bit, you can even open
her up and then leave and then come back again. It really depends on where
you're talking to women and the particular women you're talking to. This all
comes from some practice and from some awareness. Right now, to talk a little
bit more about what attention is in depth.
You're ready to start getting her attention? All right. What we're going to do is
we're going to start and we're going through a whole bunch of openers, style by
style. I don't know how many are in here but there's a lot. We're going to start
with the bombing opener. You've heard me talk about the bombing opener
before. Most likely, this is something that ... straight up, my girlfriend, she's not a
huge fan. She thinks it's a little disrespectful. You wouldn't use this at a high class
charity function but it works great at bars especially if you're having social anxiety
because what it does is it gets you right in the groove. It's like jumping into really
cold water.
In fact, the effect is kind of like if you've ever stood on a diving board that was like
kind of high off the pool. You're scared and you're looking over the edge or maybe
you've done cliff diving. You're over the edge, you're like, "Oh man, I don't know
about that." Then you're friends are like, "Come on, come on, come on. Just do it,
do it, do it." You're like, "All right. All right. All right." You run, take a leap, dive in.
It's amazing. It's so exhilarating." You're like, "Oh, that's so much fun. I want to do
it again." That's what is the experience of bombing openers especially if you're
out drinking with buddies.
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This is something that, like I said, if you're going to arouse a lot of emotion that
the bombing opener is going to do, you got to be quick. Just like jumping off of a
high diving board, you might belly flop the first time. You might hurt a little bit but
the next time you do it and the time after that, you're going to start to get a lot
smoother and figure out how to do it and we won't continue metaphor any
further from there but I think you get the picture.
Let's get into some bombing openers. The nonverbal bombing openers. These are
great for guys who have difficulty touching girls. There are those guys. They are
afraid to breach that touch barrier. The first one, you're out at the bar then you
just jump into a girl's lap, not literally jump. You go over and you walk up, you
kind of make eye contact with her and you just sit on her lap. She's like, "What are
you doing?" You're like, "I just came to say hello. You look very friendly and I
wanted a hug."
You just give her a little hug and unless is just so closed off, she is usually going to
laugh and respond to that. We used that one with great effect with guys who
have a hard time opening girls, especially touching girls. That one's great. You can,
if you're on a dance floor, which again if you have some social anxiety, maybe
you're not on the dance floor but if you are, you can actually look at a girl and just
walk over and pick her up if you're a strong guy. That's another nonverbal
bombing opener.
Some verbal ones are, you've heard me say this one before, you walk up to some
girls and you say, "Hey, guys. My girlfriend is out of town this evening. I've never
done this before but you're both really attractive so I'm wondering if you could be
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down for a threesome." Again, chances are you've heard me suggest that one
before. This one can actually be great. We've just had a client do it this past
weekend. It's funny because he said it to this two girls, right, as their friend was
walking over. Their friend came over right as he had finished delivering his
opener. She starts talking to her friends and her friends looked up. They looked
back at my client and they're like, "What did you say?" He repeated it.
At this point, the third friend who'd joined. She's feeling a little frisky. She's like,
"Well, what about foursomes? You didn't know I was part of the group, did you?"
At this point, he starts stumbling over his words and he kind of lost it. He wasn't
quick enough. But sure enough, he came back to me and said, "Oh dude, that was
so much fun. That was awesome. I want to do it again." It's just like that cliff
diving experience of being really afraid the first time and then like wanting to get
it right the second time. Lot of fun. I highly suggest you do that one.
Another one that Nick likes to use is he'll walk up to a group of girls and be like,
"Hey guys, listen, I need to ask you all something. It's kind of important. Does size
really matter because I have, I mean, my friend has this really small penis? I, I
mean, my friend," you're going to see what he's doing. He's basically talking a
little bit. He's talking about his friend even though he's really talking about
himself. He'll usually wrap this thing and say, "I, I mean, my friend is really afraid
of what a woman would say if she saw it. Does size matter?" Usually, the girls are
laughing by this point. It's great. Those are some bombing openers.
What I will say is this, if you go out and use them on your own, so much in the
way of props to you because it is, it's like jumping off a very high cliff into some
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cold, cold water. It's going to feel the risk and it's going to shock you to life and it's
going to make you really think quick. But when you do it, you're going to want to
do it again and again. There's so much fun. If you haven't done one of those
already, I highly encourage you go to a bar and have some fun with that, that's
the bombing opener.
The next type of opening line that you can use to get her attention and this is
probably 90% of how I get girls' attention is just spontaneous situational
comments. This is where you're in a room, where you're in a bar, where you're
hanging out with friends and this something situational comes up and you make a
comment on it. It really requires you have an external focus and you not be in
your head, which you be looking for things to comment people on. Two of the big
ones are clothing and drinks or food. If they're eating something or they're
drinking something, or they're wearing something in particular, you can make a
comment on it.
A little later in this lesson, we're going to talk about making things easy for
yourself with these spontaneous situational openers but for now, I just want you
to get the sense of if a girl is wearing ... here's an example that just came up from
this weekend. A girl was wearing flip flops and it's the first warm weekend of the
year. As I looked down, I'm like, "Damn, you're wearing flip flops, that's amazing."
That is a very easy situational spontaneous opener. Another one is I was standing
next to a girl at the bar, she was drinking something called, Franbois, which is sort
of a raspberry liquor. I was like, "Oh sweet, you're drinking Franbois, I didn't even
know they had that here." We started talking about that. Those are some very
easy ones.
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Another way that you can approach situational spontaneous openers, this is
something that requires a little bit of practice, it's something that I've really
trained myself on, is the art of looking for absurd interpretations of an
environment. For example, one time, I was at a bar called Pianos. There's a big
line towards the bathroom. There's a fire extinguisher right there. I walked up to
the girls and I said, "Hey, guys. Is this the line for the fire extinguisher?" They saw
the fire extinguisher is right behind them and they laugh and we started joking
and we went from there.
Another good one, there's a bar here called Spitzers that we like to go to. The
bathroom is down the stairs. I saw some girls who were standing right at the top
of the stairs. As I walked up, I looked at them and looked to them, looked up to
them, looked down, looked up at them, at this point, they're kind of like, what is
this guy looking at. I walked up to them and I said, "You two are the zipper
checkers, right? That's why you're standing here." They just laughed. They just
really laughed. I was like, "You see anything good? Anybody not quite doing it
right? Anything dangling out, God forbid?" They're laughing a little bit more.
That's how the conversation started.
A third thing that's sort of spontaneous in situations is you can ask for advice. If
you're at a bar where there's a lot of micro brews and it's not just Bud and Bud
Light and a girl is drinking something, you can say, "What are you drinking? I can't
make heads or tails at this menu." She starts telling you and you say, "You're a
brown ale sort of girl. Cool. I love brown ale, New Castle, actually is my favorite.
You think this one is good?" She'll say yes, no. "All right. I'm trusting you. I'm
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going to trust you but if it's not good, I don't know, I might have to splash it on
you or something, you can drink it."
You could tease her a little bit. Or, "If it's not good, I'm coming after you. I know
where you're standing." Again, little teases make it really easy. You could do the
exact same thing if you're standing in line for a sandwich or for coffee, even at
Starbucks, you could use this. I've done this before where I've walked up and I've
said, "This menu is ridiculous. I just wanted some coffee." But you know what,
honestly, girls usually get the craziest stuff like double chi, extra mocha latiatto,
"What kind of drink is you're favorite? What do you like to get?" In this case, the
girl is like, "Actually, I just like dark coffee myself." I was like, "Okay, that's
amazing. Never meet girls who just like dark coffee. What's your name?"
You can see how just asking for advice on something; you could it on a sandwich
shop. You could do it on a Chipotle. I hope you don't do it at a Chipotle. I hope
you've been to Chipotle and you don't need advice there. Anywhere though that
you can ask for advice, you can come up with something like that. Those are
spontaneous situational openers. I'm going to give you a little bit more advice
later on that's just not specific to these types of conversation starters but is more
broad based. How to make things easy for yourself and how to look for situational
spontaneous things to open with.
We'll get back to that in a little bit. For now, let's move on to the next one. The
next type of situational opener that we're going to talk about is what I call
playfully pacing their reality. It's a little easier demonstrated than it is explained
but I'll give you the high level explanation. Basically, she's sitting there and she's
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got something going on in her conscious or maybe even her subconscious. You
walk up and you call it out and you're able to pace her reality and say, "This is
what you're experiencing at this moment."
Again, if I just gave you that description right there, I wouldn't expect you'd be
able to go out and do it. Here's a couple of examples. First one, Nick came up with
this on our coaching programs. It's something that have clients use. We'll have
them approach two girls. They'll be like, "Hey guys, on the scale of 1 to 10, how
serious of a conversation is this that you're having right now?" The girls usually
laugh. Unless it's a really serious conversation or unless they don't like the
nonverbals of the guy, they'll usually say something like, "Five or six, I don't
know," or like, "Well, it depends on who's asking." That's always the answer that
you wanted, it depends on who's asking.
Then you can follow up with something like, "Because I know that when I'm out
with my buddies on a Friday night, we hate it when girls come and bother us.
Usually we're talking about very heavy topics, political economy and the currency
crisis and war in the Middle East. What are you guys talking about?" By this point,
they're laughing and they're giggling a little bit. They obviously have not been
talking about, probably have not been talking about the war in the Middle East.
They'll open up and they'll start sharing with you. That's how you use that opener.
Moving onto the next one, I love this one, I've used it a bunch of times. If you
make eye contact with a girl in a bar, it's very easy, especially if you made eye
contact with her a couple of times. Just walk up, you say, "I couldn't let you sit
here all night without getting a chance to get to know me." Notice that I said, I
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couldn't ... I did not say, "I couldn't sit here all night without getting a chance to
get to know you." That's like the obvious thing you're saying. You want to say, "I
couldn't sit here all night without giving you a chance to get to know me."
That's what flips around us, it makes it kind of flirting. She's like, "Really?" She'll
probably pause, she'll laugh, whatever and be like, "Oh, really?" "Yeah, I mean, I
got to be honest with you. You're not too bad yourself. I'm kind of curious to get
to know you." This is where you can have sort of flirty vibe. She's going to to be be
like, "Really?" Be like, "Yeah, my name is Christian. What's your name?" Just jump
into it like that.
Another one that I love, it really similar to this one. It's a little bit easier because
it's got sort of a punch line in it. I think I've heard it from a guy named Glenn
who's a coach here in New York. You can use it down the street. You can use it at
a coffee shop. You can use it at the bar. It does work great. You look at her and
you say, this is assuming she's giving you some eye contact, you say, "If you're
going to give someone that look, you should really come up and say hello to
them." Usually they go, "What look?" You say, "What look? The look of a kid, the
fat kid looking in an ice cream cone." That always gives them a crack up. "What
look?" "Like a fat kid looking at an ice cream cone." That's the delivery.
You want to kind of act surprised as if you don't know or you can't believe that
she doesn't know what look she's been giving. "What look? The look of a kid, the
fat kid looking in an ice cream cone." Again, step back like surprised. Kind of come
back in, that's how you want to go over that one.
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Fourth, playful pacing of reality. This came from a real life example. I was out with
my buddy Rob Judge who's very you might say assertive about approaching
people. I was kind of off my game. He went and he started talking to these two
girls. They're really hot. They'd obviously been hit on all night. He starts talking to
this one girl. I'm supposed to wing for him. I sit down and she ... I can just see
she's with another group of guys. I just started reading the thoughts going
through her head. I'm not like some sort of mentalist but it was pretty easy. I said,
"Hey, wow, you're watching my friend hit on you're friend right now and you're
just thinking to yourself, 'Jeez, another group of guys coming to hit on us. What
are we going to do about this?"
"You try to make eye contact with your friend because you're trying to figure out
like do we like these guys or don't we?' Oh, you just made eye contact with me.
You're actually kind of thinking now like, 'These guys are kind of funny. My friend
seems to be getting along with his friend and this guy." In fact, at this point she's
looking at me. I'm like, "In fact you're thinking, 'Oh, he's kind of sexy.
You were thinking about kicking your friend your friend just then but now you're
not going to because you actually are enjoying this conversation. I'm just saying
what's going through your head and as I'm saying this, she starts to laugh more
and more. She starts to open up a little bit. She's like, "All right. You got me. You
got me. What's your name?" She actually opened me up at that point.
That is an example of playfully pacing her reality. Just getting right in her head
and explaining exactly what's going on with her. It's really fun. It's really easy. Go
ahead and use that one whenever you want, especially if you are winging for a
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buddy and some girl is looking at you. Again, all that stuff can work great. Go out,
use one of those. They're really fun. The fat kid with the ice cream cone was a
great one. The scale of 1 to 10 is a good one. It's great stuff in there. Have fun
with it.
The next type of opener is what I call assume rapport which is where you're
joining their conversation. This one is pretty easy. You just have to feel
comfortable doing it. Whenever you feel like you're close to somebody, when you
have some proximity and you can overhear what they're talking about, it's
actually really easy to jump in. It actually shows a lot of situational awareness. It
shows confidence with strangers.
Basically, you want to act as if you already knew them. You usually want to buffer
this with a statement like, "I couldn't help but overhear." If you just jump in, it's
going to be a little bit rude. You can usually buffer with something like, "I couldn't
help but overhear." Then you going to deliver it.
Now, this rest on a couple of techniques that are very easily mastered. One of
them is yes and, this is an old improv technique. It's such a fundamental part of
how I interact with people. It's basically agreeing with somebody and then adding
to your agreement. "Yes, and," blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Let's say they're talking
about a movie. When they're talking about a scene in a movie that they really like.
You could say something like, "I couldn't help but overhear, I love that scene. It
was amazing. Do you remember when, blah, blah, blah, blah happened?"
Basically, I've agreed with them. I said, "I love that scene. It's amazing." That's my
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yes, and "Do you remember when, blah, blah, blah, blah happened?" That's my
and.
You can also do a yes but. You could say, "Sorry, I couldn't help but overhear. I like
that scene but I got to be honest with you, I thought that so and so's
interpretation of that character was a little bit cardboardy. You didn't think so?"
You've seen the agreement like, "Yes, I hear what you're saying but I have to take
a contrary opinion." That's a really easy way if you hear somebody talking about a
movie or something that you've got exposure to and you're familiar with.
Another one that's really easy is or there's always. This is basically where people
are talking about choice A and choice B. You're inserting choice C. Let's say that
they're talking about, it's late at night, you're at the bar and they're talking about
where they want to get late night food. This is actually great time to talk to girls
and take them to another bar. You could say something like, let's say they're
talking about pizza or tacos, you could say, "Well, sorry, I couldn't help but
overhear. I'm actually a little hungry myself. I was thinking about this, of course,
there's pizza, there's tacos, or there's always crepes. Have you guys ever had a
late night crepes around here?" Very easy way to start a conversation.
You could even go absurd with it. You could say, "I hear you talking about pizza
and tacos and that's all good but I got to be honest, you guys are both," in this
point, I'm looking them up and down, let me give you my eye contact, I'll be like,
"Pizza and tacos are pretty good but I got to be honest, you guys are both like
pretty well dressed right now. I mean, we could just go to Per Se, I heard that they
got a really great late night menu."
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If you're not a New Yorker, Per Se is like one of the most expensive 5-‐star
restaurants in town. Mostly, New Yorkers are going to get that joke. They're going
to be like, "Ha ha, Per Se." Be like, "No, seriously. Let's get in a cab. Let's go out
there. Let's make some food. It will be amazing." That's the or there is always.
Here's a few examples of this is from my own life. I've just given you some sort of
generic examples but these are three of that specifically came up when I was out
at various times. One point, I was standing next to these two girls. I heard them
talking about, "I don't know if we really want to go out hard tonight or if we just
want to go out."
I just joined the conversation. I was like, "Yeah, I mean, what exactly is going out?
I mean, there's going out and there's going out out. Going out hard. What is going
out out?" This is a really easy way to start a conversation as they were talking
about going out.
Again, I'm just listening to what they're saying. I'm asking them to define
something they're speaking of. "We could go out or we could go out out." Here
again, I'm joining, "I've had this conversation with my friends before, what exactly
is going out out?" That's how you deliver that. Another one is I was standing
nearby a table and I heard some people talking about Braveheart and I just
interjected and I said, "Sorry, I couldn't help but notice, were you guys just talking
about Braveheart?" They're like, "Yeah." I was like, "Freedom." They all started
laughing. This is it.
A bar, everybody is already in a really good mood and they're having fun. Join the
conversation and start talking about Braveheart. Then I think I added something
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like, "Mel Gibson, such a hottie in that movie." It's a bunch girls. They're like, "I
know. I know. I know." We just started talking. From there, I think I asked them,
I'm like, "Do you guys like men in kilts?" Again, easy conversation. Just pick right
up on it and join right in. If people are talking about a movie, it's always easy to
join it.
Third time this has happened in my life, I was walking down the street, there were
two girls who are very close to me. I think they were like a little bit in front of me.
Both were really attractive. I heard one of them saying, "I'm so disappointed
because I attended her birthday party and she definitely did not come to mine.
Her presence was notable." I'm thinking to myself, "That's so retarded but I'm
going to join the conversation anyway."
I like kind of walked up next to them I look at her and I'm like, "Don't you hate
that? When you put an effort to be friends with somebody and just don't
reciprocate. There were two people who I thought were pretty cool and I went to
their birthday parties and they didn't come to mine. I'm like off the list, never
again."
The girl is like, "Yeah, absolutely. Never." We started talking about that. At that
point, I'm like, "When is your birthday?" She's like, "It's in July." I'm like, "Oh,
summer baby. I'm an August. You know what it is not to bring cupcakes in the
school." Whenever I talk to somebody, this is complete nonsense, by the way, but
whenever I talk to somebody about their birthday, if they were summer baby and
I talk about how they didn't get to bring cupcakes into school and if they were not
a summer baby, if they were like born during the school months, I'm like, "Oh, so
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you got to bring cupcakes into school. Wasn't it great when everybody celebrates
your birthday?"
It's an easy one. That's assuming rapport. Join their conversation. I've just given
you a ton of examples. You should easily be able to find somebody who's talking
about a movie and join a conversation about that. At the very least, just go out
and maybe use some yes ands, throw in some other stuff. You're going to find
those open really easily.
Here's another assuming rapport conversation starter, kind of along those lines
but I like to call it catching up. This catching up where you're essentially starting
conversation with some girls under the premise that you know them already. It
slips in under the radar because it seems like a conversation like she'd have with a
friend. It does require some nonverbal interest.
It requires good physical movement. You've definitely come correct and be
confident with this one, with your body language. It definitely leaves openings for
her to ask a few questions. We can paint this one out really quickly. I'm just going
to give you some examples here. Basically, what it is is you're going to catch her
eye. You're going to walk up. "Oh, there you are. I was wondering when I was
going to see you."
She's going to look a little weird, a little like shocking. "How's your night going?"
She's just going to ... as long as your body language has been good, she's going to
respond pretty well to that. "It's going great. Wait, do I know you?" "No, but you
were the person I've been looking for all night." She can laugh at that. You can
respond with ... what are some other things I've responded with?
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You can say, "Yeah, don't you remember? We had that crazy nigh just the other
week down in Mexico. You were there. I totally remember you." She could laugh
at that. This is where your absurdity can run wild. "Yeah, we met on that cruise
down Bali the other ... it's two months ago. I can't believe you don't remember
this. Yeah, you were part of that like we were building homes for Habitat
Humanity back in Wisconsin two years ago. You don't remember?"
Again, this is where if she ask do I know you, just come up with some absurd
answer. Another one, if you're talking with a group of girls, "There you are. I was
wondering where I was going to see you. Where were you guys before this? Just
make some quick eye contact. Find the one who's zeroing on you. Lock in on her.
That will allow her to sort of answer you. Let's see, if it's just one girl. "There you
are. I was wondering when I'd see you. Who'd you come here with tonight?"
That one is if you saw a friend and you're wondering who they came here with.
That one can be really fun. Again, it's great when there's high energy, when
people are already enjoying themselves and people are a little bit open. You see
somebody who gives you a little bit of eye contact. It can be a lot of fun. That's
assume rapport and sort of catching up.
This next opener is called “hello with a nickname.” This is the best way I know of
to start a conversation with a really, really hot girl. Like the sort of girl who every
other guy is hitting on. She's really imposing. This is the best way, this is exactly
how I start a conversation with a girl who is a ... she's a playboy. I can't say too
much about her. If I said the specific award that she'd won, she's very easily
Googleable. But this is exactly how I started a conversation with a playboy
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something or other, in the lobby of the Standard Hotel on Sunset Avenue. It's
very, very easy. Basically, you're just walking up and you're giving her a nickname
the moment you walk up. It introduces a flirty vibe to the conversation very
quickly. It assumes a degree of friendship.
Let me give you an example. This is the one I used to talk to playboy girl as I
walked up to her I said, "Hey, what's up Chief?" Just that simple, "Hey, what's up
Chief?" She's doing some Sodoku. She's like, "Just doing some Sodoku." I was like,
"I've never played that. Everybody seems to love it though. What's it all about?"
That was it. She later told me that when I said chief, something clicked in her and
she was like, "This guy doesn't talk to me like other guys."
Another thing you can say is, "Hey, Sassy Pants. How's your night going?" Sassy
pants is a great nickname. I learned that one from a Race Depriest. It's so funny.
"Hey, Sassy pants. How's your night going?" Another line that I've used and this
one is so funny. I've used this a few times now. The first time, I got such a good
response, I was like I got to use this again is, "Hey there, trucker?" Trucker is like
it's such a goofy nickname for a person. She said to me, she's like, "What did you
call me?" I was like, "Trucker." She's like, "Trucker?"
I was like, "Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was you that I saw cruising down the
interstate earlier. You were like on your CB radio. You had some tobacco on your
mouth. I'm pretty sure it was. It's kind of unfeminine, I got to tell you. Your foot
was up on the dashboard." She just bust out laughing. I was like, "Trucker, right?"
She's like, "Yeah, yeah." I was like, "That's not your real name? You don't like
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people to call you trucker." She's like, "No, no. My real name is blah, blah." Really
easy introduction to the conversation.
Another nickname that I came up with one time was nutter butter. That's a little
crispy candy bar. That just gets a laugh. They're like, "Nutter butter. What did you
just call me?" "Nutter butter. Don't you love nutter butters?" She'll be like,
"Yeah." I'm like, "Cool. What's wrong with nutter butter? What don't you like
about nutter butter? Is there something else you like to be called?" It just kind of
creates this really flirty vibe. Chick pea is another one. "Howdy, chick pea?" You
can say that. That's a great nickname.
You could see as I'm talking about these, I enjoy nicknames. I really have fun with
them. You notice that none of them are complimentary or cheesy. None of them
are like, "Hey, what's up Lady Gaga?" Or like, "Hey, what's up pretty lady?" Or
"What's up angel?" Or "What's up honey bunny?" They're all names that you'd
give them to a kid sister. They're all slightly teasing. Especially like trucker, nutter
butter, chief. They're very nonsexual and they don't elevate her in any way.
They're silly. That's what's critical about them. If you're going to use a nickname,
it's got to be silly. It can't be super complimentary.
When I was putting this list together, I was like, I realized I don't ever say anything
with lady in it. I don't say anything with girly in it. Anything that sounds like a
common thing that a guy say to a girl at the bar, I wouldn't say it. I'm thinking silly
names. Things that you'd call your kid sister. That's how you're going to use
nicknames to start a conversation. It will definitely get things off in the right foot.
Give those ones a go.
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Moving on to the next opener. This one is what I like to call the need some help
from a girl opener. Under this category falls the ever celebrated opinion openers
that the pick up artists community loves. If you're not familiar with with opinion
opener, the idea is you walk up to some girls. "Hey guys, I need a quick female
opinion. I've only got a few seconds before I got to get back to my friends." Then
deliver the opener. That was huge back when the book The Game came out. A lot
of guys use them. I always found them to be a little inauthentic the they were
taught.
But I do like to ask some girls advice on some stuff. I like getting their opinions on
things. Just doing it in a little bit more natural way. That's what I want to show
you here is getting help from a girl. First thing is it's best if you use it with
proximity. You want to be close to her. You don't want to walk across the room
and have this opener. That's making it hard on yourself. Make it easy. Get close to
the girl. Be talking with your buddies about whatever it is or in certain cases, you
can be on your phone. Let's just jump into some examples.
The two typical types of help from a girl openers that I've used are either getting
references from pop culture or asking a personal question that you actually need
your opinion of. Here's an example of an opinion opener I used one time. I was
out at a bar. I was sitting there by myself waiting for a friend to show up. There's
some girls nearby. I was texting on my phone. I looked over them, I said, "Hey
guys, I need your help with something. What's the name of Jennifer Aniston's
character on Friends?" They're like, "Oh, Rachel." I'm like, "Yeah, that's right.
She's so Rachel. Great, thank you very much."
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I texted a little bit. Then I put my phone away. I kind of looked over. There's two
girls sitting there so it's very, very easy. I'm off my phone at this point. I kind of
looked over at them and smiled at them. I go, "Hey, thanks for that by the way."
They're like, "Yeah, yeah. By the way, why did you need to know that?" They're
curious. I'm curious. I've opened it up for them and it made it really easy for them
and I'm like ... we just moved from there.
Another one right along those lines was I asked them, "What was that popular
Backstreet Boys song from back in the day? It wasn't Bye, Bye, Bye." They're like,
"No, no. It's N'Sync. That one's N'Sync." I was like, "What is it then?" Pop culture
references are great. Anytime you've got a pop culture reference. You can use it
as a bet with your buddies. You can say, "My buddies and I have a bet like I think a
popular Backstreet Boys song is X, he thinks it's Y. But we knew the girls at the
table has settled this one for us. Tell us which one is it. That's a great way to get
girls opinions or get them giving you help, I should say.
Now, when you actually want opinions, I've got a couple of great ones. One of my
favorites is when should you add person to your Blackberry messenger list? If you
see girls with Blackberries and I've said this one before but I'll give it to you right
now, if you see some girls with Blackberries, you can walk up and be like, "Hey,
guys. I see you all have Blackberries and something came up with a friend
recently.
He just started dating this girl and she wanted to add him to BBM like really, really
quick. But apparently, I have an iPhone but apparently with BBM, as soon as you
send a message, you can see when somebody's received it. This is kind of like
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freaked him out a little bit. I'm curious, what is the right time to add somebody to
Blackberry messenger when you're starting to date them?"
That one's great for girls with Blackberries because they've all had this damned
conversation. They've all talked about it and thought about it. They will give you
their opinions. At least at the time I sit down to record this, Blackberries have not
gone anywhere just yet. Android's pretty popular. iPhones are mega popular but
Blackberries are still around. If you see girls with Blackberries, that's a great one.
Another one that I love, I love love love this one is you see a girl who's really
attractive. You can walk up to her. You can say, "Hey, excuse me. I had to ask you.
Where did you get those jeans from?" She'll say, "Why?" Or she'll tell you. The
follow up to that is, "Well, I was jean shopping with my friend Bria the other day
and her figure is really similar to yours. Those jeans, they look amazing on you, if I
may say so, they make your butt look awesome. They shape you really well. You
should totally be modeling for them PS, I just needed to know where you got
them from." That is a great one in terms of getting opinion.
Sometimes, I like to use silly things. I was out at the bar the other night there
were some girls who were clearly not hipsters. If you know the hipsters, it's
somebody who like, the best way I can describe is they dress in a lot of plaid, they
wear big glasses, they drink shitty beer. They listen to Phoenix. Anyway, I don't
know exactly how to describe a hipster but that's kind of a hipster. It's like a
trendy thing here in New York and a little bit in LA. I walked up to some girls. I was
like, "You guys look like you could maybe help me with this. I need some advice
buying the perfect hipster gift." They kind of laugh.
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I was like, "You're not like all the way there. You're not clashing with purples and
greens and plaids but I could see you, I know you know what you're doing. My
sister kind of dresses like you guys. I'm looking for a birthday gift for her. What
would be like some really good stuff in this whole thing?" They loved it. They
thought it was so funny. Whether it's hipsters or whether it's like I need a gift for
this type of person or that type of person. When you get absurd about that sort of
thing, that's what makes it really funny. "I need a gift for a hipster." Or "I need a
gift for a hippie." Or "I need a gift for a corporate type." Or "I need a gift for an
accountant."
Those are the sort of things that can be really funny. Now, you wouldn't say
something about an accountant if you weren't out with accountants. But that's
where you can use this type of opinions. Those are the whole bunch of opinion
openers, more broadly, openers where you're getting input from girls. Honestly,
those are okay. They can work really well. Those are not a huge part of my own
game. I've used them from time to time but I always like to use situational stuff a
little bit more. You may enjoy them, you may really get a lot of mileage out of
them. If you do then I encourage you to develop some opinions of your own,
some opinion openers of your own that you're going to use.
Let's move on. Let's talk about direct compliment openers. Direct compliment
openers, I actually have used these to great effect. I love direct compliment
openers. Again, it's a little scary when you do these but man they work so well.
This is basically you stating your genuine interest in a woman. It's got to come
from a place of high value. This cannot be something like, "Please like me. Please
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like me so much." You want to be appreciative without needing anything in
response. The mindset you have is that of an art patron where you see some
beautiful art on the wall and you're like, "That is incredible. Wow, the painter who
created that, I really got to give that guy respect." That's your mindset when
you're doing a direct compliment opener.
It's also making somebody's day better. Whenever I give a direct compliment
opener, I know in my heart, I'm like, "I'm going to rock this person today." I'm
going to tell them something that's going to make them so happy. I literally have
the idea in my mind that it's like handing them some flowers. I'm just saying,
"Here, this is for you." The more creative that you get, the better. I'll give you two
examples of direct compliment openers that I love. There's only one that I ever
use with any sort of regularity and there's another on that I'll use from time to
time if it's called for. That one, I'll give you first.
That one is basically when a girl has eye shadow that matches her earrings. Every
now and then, you'll see a girl who's put enough thought into it to have her eye
shadow match her earrings. You can just call it out, you'd be like, "Wow, hey, I
just had to come up to you. I noticed, does your eye shadow match your earrings
right now or is it just the lighting in here?"
They will be shocked that you noticed. They'll be like, "Yeah," just go like, "That's
awesome that you put that much effort into like the little nuances of putting
yourself together. That's incredible. What's you're name? They'll get your name
or you get their name. Introduce yourself and be like, "Yeah, it just looks so so
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pretty, the combination together. Are you in fashion?" That's a very easy way to
go with that.
That's one that I've used. Another one, honestly, this one is it takes some balls but
it's so worth it. You just walk up to a girl and you say, "Hey listen, I just had to tell
you, you are really stunning." She'll be like, "Oh, thanks." You'd be like, "No, no. A
lot of girls are like pretty pretty but there's something about you that almost
seems to radiate from the inside out.
I wouldn't have stopped you and told you this if there wasn't something beautiful
about you, about your presence and not just your looks. It's really captivating. I'm
sure I'm not the only one who's recognized it." She'd be like, "Oh wow. Thanks."
Then you can say something like, "I just had to make sure that somebody told you
that today."
That is always what kind of clinches the deal is when you say that, "I just had to
make sure that somebody told you that today." They'll realize that, "Wow,
nobody has told me that today." It's giving a woman a gift that no other man has
probably given her that day because other guys maybe said, "You're hot." Maybe
they've complimented on her dress or her hair. But saying that she radiates from
the inside out and that she has a presence, that's what makes this opener work so
well. Now, where you can with this is actually really funny. What I started to do is
I'd say, "I have to know, where does this come from? Is it like are you caffeinated
or do you love Jesus? Did you get a promotion at work today? Is the spirit filling
you up?" Those are some kind of high level funny things.
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Again, caffeinated, love Jesus or love God, got a promotion at work. Those three
things, if you say them, they'll usually get a huge laugh. I've actually said it before
to a girl who really loved God. She's like, "Oh my God. Yes, I'm filled with the
spirit." I'm like, "Oh, okay." Other times, girls will just say, "No. I don't know. I
don't know." The conversation goes from there but it will definitely get a laugh
out of them. They'll usually want to know who you are and they'll ask you a little
bit about yourself. A great way to start a conversation.
A lot of guys say don't give a girl a compliment right upfront. The final thing I
would say about this is you should do this when you are compelled to do it. Don't
use this if you don't think a girl is really beautiful. Don't use this if you don't feel
that attraction for somebody. I know there have been those times in your life
where you see a girl and there is something radiating from her and you're just
like, "Holy crap. There's something so beautiful about this girl." That is the time
you want to use this. That's my favorite direct compliment opener. I sincerely
hope that you go out and give it to some girl because there are beautiful girls out
there. I can't talk to all of them. You need to do some of it too. Go and make
somebody's world better with this one.
We're going to move on now and we're going to talk about emotion. Everything
we've talked about up to this point has been stuff to say to get her attention.
Obviously some of those are going to create emotion in and of themselves. The
bombing opener is going to create some emotion. Direct compliment opener is
going to create some emotion. But other times, you need to add emotion to the
conversation. The worst thing that happens, if you've done these approaches
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before then you know this has happened is the conversation sometimes deflates
and it feels like you've just walked up and you've popped a balloon.
What's really happening is that you're draining the emotion out of the
conversation, the good parts of it. What you want to do is you want to do is you
want to inflate it. Think of yourself like pumping it up with emotion but don't walk
up and go poof poof poof. But you do want to inflate it with emotion. Which
emotion? Humor is obviously a great one. Drama can be really funny. Being sassy
or sarcastic can be funny. Adding some disbelief, some suspense, some tension.
Even surprise. Any of those can be great emotions to add to a conversation. Now,
you'll probably ask yourself, "Okay, how do I do this?"
The first thing I would say, and I'm going to give you some examples, but the first
thing I would say is that all of these emotions come from your personality. If you
are in a habit of acting fake surprised, that is coming from your personality. If
you're in a habit of being dramatic, that's going to come from your personality.
The first thing you want to think about is what elements and what emotions do I
want to grow in my personality in the early stages of talking to a woman. If you
find something funny, you want to be able to laugh about it. If you're excited
about something, you want to be able to share that enthusiasm. If you are feeling
sarcastic or kind of sassy, you want to be able to show that.
Frankly, you need to look for opportunities about how to make things emotional.
They don't just happen. Again, being overly dramatic about things like, "Whoa, it's
me." That's an example of being overly dramatic. Being excited about what you're
talking about. This is the simplest one of all. We'll see a lot of guys who they come
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into our coaching programs. The very early day, the very first day, they're not
enthusiastic when they're talking about themselves. I was like, "Come on, man. Be
excited about your life. Share something that you're excited about, like have fun
with this."
Let's get into some examples of adding emotion to conversation. These are just
quick little one-‐liner. The best one that I can give you is to talk with enthusiasm
about the things that are important to you. When we start talking about intrigue,
we're going to be getting more into that. But let's talk about drama. Drama is a
great one. Drama is a really fun emotion to add to an interaction. Let's say that
you're talking with some girls. You can use what I cal the time outs. The time out
is basically, "Oh, time out." Just add some little, "Time out, where are you guys
from?" Or "Time out, what are you guys doing standing here?" Or like, "Time out,
you guys aren't from this neighborhood, are you?" The timeout creates like a
spike of drama.
Very, very similar is what I would call wait a second. Some girls are talking, you go,
"Wait a second, wait a second, wait a second. Say that again." Or "Wait a second,
wait a second, wait a second. You said what?" Or "Wait a second, wait a second,
wait a second. Where are you from?" Any of those things are going to create
drama. The funny thing is, that's creating some tension in the conversation. Let's
say that she says ... let's say you're talking to a girl and she says she's from Peoria,
Illinois. You're like,, "Wait a second, wait a second, wait a second. Where did you
say you're from?" She's like, "Peoria, Illinois." Be like, "Okay, never mind. I
thought you said, never mind." She'll like laugh. She'll be like, "Wait, what?"
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But you've just introduced drama to the conversation. That's the point, having fun
with it. Or you could say something like, "My best friend went to Peoria, Illinois."
She'll be like, "Really?" You're like, "No, he didn't but it sounds like such a cool
name. Peoria. I never get to say that name. I just want to say Peoria a few times."
She'll laugh. That's where adding some drama and then releasing it. You're just
bull shitting but it's funny bullshit.
You can be sassy, if she says something, be like, "Really. Oh, really?" This is where
I like you're being sassy woman. "Oh, really?" She'll be, "Really." "Really." You just
can get this back and forth going of saying really. Another one is like if she says ...
she can say anything. "I'm from Peoria, Illinois." "You are not." Or "I'm an
accountant." "You are not." Or "I do modeling in my spare time." "You do not."
"Yes, I do." "Oh please, really? Wait, time out?" Now, you're just starting to
combine these together. "You do modeling in your spare time? Hang on, let me ...
I guess I need to see your book. I don't know. I don't know. I really had you
pegged as an accountant but who am I to say. Anyway, tell me about this
modeling thing. Tell me about why it's so fun."
At this point, you've had fun with it. You've been a little bit of sassy. Another sassy
thing you could say, be like, "Oh, my God." This is great in a high energy
environment after she’s said something. Again, this stuff is really funny when
she's giving you stuff that's unremarkable. "Where are you from? Do you live in
this neighborhood?" Anything like that. Let's just say she goes, "Oh yeah, I live in
Winsberg." "Oh, my God. You do not." She'll like, "Yeah, why?" Be like, "Oh,
wow." This is funny. She's going to start picking up that you're being sassy.
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Another one is "You wouldn't say that." This is so silly. You just like you say,
"What's your favorite thing to do?" "Oh, I like scuba diving." "You wouldn't say
that." Or, "Where are you from?" "I'm from the East Village." "You wouldn't say
that." It's, "Oh, really, would I?" This is where you can get that really fun flirty
back and forth going. Another one that I like to use is the disgust noise, "Oh," it's
sassy, right? It's just like she said something and go like, "Oh."
To go back to the zipper checker one. The girls who are standing in line for the
zipper checkers. I think I said something to the extent of like, "You guys are the
zipper checkers, right?" They're like, "Yeah." I'm like, "Oh." They're like "What?"
I'll be like, "I talked to management a while ago about this. I asked them to get a
guy and a girl zipper checker and now there's a like a guy and a girl and I feel like
my civil rights are being violated." I was able to use disgust noise and then
introduce something kind of silly.
Disbelief is another great emotion that you can insert into the conversation. Let's
say, that's kind of along the lines of sass but let's say that she's from a certain
place. She's like, "I'm from Williamsberg. Notice, that's just nonverbal. The look of
big disbelief. "Where are you from?" "I'm from Williamsberg." "Are you sure
about that?" It's funny, right? It's introducing something really funny and goofy.
Most guys aren't going to do that. They're going to be like, "Oh, Williamsberg. I've
been over there. There are some cool bars." But no, you're going to go like, "Are
you sure about that?" It's going to introduce some flirtatious into the
conversation.
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Another line, I got this from my buddy, Bobby. It's kind of disbelief. It's like, "Wait
a second. You guys aren't tourists, are you?" That's a fantastic little line to
introduce in disbelief. Then to be sarcastic, you can just show sheer
disappointment and be like, "Oh, I don't know." Anything somebody gives you.
They say, "I'm going to come." Be like, "Oh." Or they say, "We live in the
neighborhood." "Oh, no. No, no, no." It's dramatic, right? It's funny. It's just funny
like, "Oh, no. No, no, no, no." They'll say, "What?" Be like, "Oh, jeez. No, this
neighborhood, it's just," you can come up with anything at that point.
Now, I'm starting to have fun. I'm starting to be absurd. If somebody said that, if
somebody ... if I was going to be disappointed about the neighborhood for
example, "Oh, no. No, no, no." They'll be like, "What? What about it?" I'll be like,
"You know, I was so hoping that you lived a little bit closer to me so I could come
stalk you but this is just too far. It's not going to work."
That's one easy thing I can do. You can probably come up with other thing for
yourself. Here's the point with emotion, let's step back for a second. I've just
given you a bunch of ways to inject some humor, some drama, some suspense,
some disbelief into the conversation to literally pump it up with fun and do stuff
that other guys haven't done.
More broadly, all these stuff, what it allows you to do is it gives you the
opportunity to have fun and to be creative with the things you say next. Whether
it's, "Oh, no. No, no, no. This is never going to work. I was totally planning on
stalking you but this is ... you live down here. I'm on the upper West Side. It's just
way too far for me to come. It's not going to work." That's just one example of me
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having fun coming up with words. I could come up with any number of other
things. I want to get you working with your brain to start to come up with other
stuff and start to enjoy it.
We'll give you a little bit of homework to use these phrases to insert some
emotion to the conversation and take it to the next place and come up with some
creative stuff on your own. But that's how you insert emotion in a conversation.
It's very, very easy. You just need some very simple phrases. You need to do
something that other guys aren't doing. Have some drama, have some suspense.
Have some fun. Say something funny in it. It's not that hard. Once you start
getting the stuff, it's so fun. Go check the homework because there's some great
stuff in there about how to put this into practice.
All right. You have gotten her attention. You stirred up the emotional path. Now
it's time to intrigue her. This is really fun. You want to get her to focus on you.
This is basically one of the conversation hooks. You know what it is when it hooks.
She starts opening up, she starts asking you questions. She turns her body to you.
Basically, she's showing genuine interest in you. A lot of guys screw this up
though. They're like they get the attention, maybe they even get a little bit of
emotion going but they can't quite get this intrigue thing going on. Why did they
screw it up?
Here's why. One, maybe they're talking about themselves too much. You're not
going to do that, I'm going to show you how to fix it. When you talk about
yourself too much, it's like all the intrigue is gone, it seems like you're self
centered, no bueno. Other guys, they ask boring questions. You're not going to do
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that either. I'm going to show you how to ask good questions. Now, you can ask
boring questions from time to time. If you throw in some of the emotional stuff
that gave you previously, you can ask like where are you from, what do you do for
work, what do you do for fun.
If you're able to be fun, sarcastic like, "Oh really? Time out, you did not just say
that." All of that emotional stuff I just gave you, you can ask boring questions and
actually make it work but at a certain point, you've got to take it beyond the
boring questions and get a little bit more into her. I'm going to show you how to
do that too.
Third thing is when guys let a woman lead and take the frame. I'm going to show
you how to fix that. But basically what will happen is especially if you come in, you
work with us live and you do coaching with us, we've had a couple of girls who
bust your balls if you're not leading the conversation. They will flip it back on you
and they will take charge and then they'll be like, "All right, you're out of here."
You got to be able to lead a conversation.
Fourth, thinking about what to say next rather than just listening to the girl and
paying attention to her. I'm going to show you how to listen to her and not be too
much in your head. Obviously, when you're still working on this stuff, it's going to
be a little tough but what are the fundamentals that you got to get right in order
to intrigue a girl. Let's move beyond what the guy screw up. Let's talk about what
you're going to do right. First one is how you talk about yourself. The second one
is the way that you answer questions. The third one is the way that you get her to
open up to you and the questions you ask her.
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Let's move in, speaking about yourself. You got to talk about yourself. We got a
client just this past weekend. I listened in on one of conversations and I'm like,
"Well, he is just asking question after question after question after question." He
was not asking the woman ... or he was not telling the woman anything about
himself. This is a problem because a woman has to know that she values the man
she's talking to. In a certain point, you can be asking all the most interesting
question in the world but she's going to say like, "Wait, who are you? Why am I
talking to you? Who is this guy?" You have to answer that question for her but
you got to make her work for it. That's why you got to talk about yourself and
that's why you got to talk about yourself in the right way.
You're going to do that by using baits. Bait is basically a hook. It's where you
throw something on the conversation and she can bite at it, she can nibble at it.
She can grab at it. It's where you say this is something that is about me and she's
going to ask about it. Your point when you throw this stuff out and I want to make
this crystal clear because some guys totally miss the point of talking about
themselves in the early stages of the conversation. The point of talking about
yourself, listen and pay attention very closely, is to get her to open up to you.
It's not to share war stories or horror stories. It's not to talk about your ex-‐
girlfriend. It's to get her to open up to. You can say it with enthusiasm. You can
say it with excitement. But the whole point is to share just enough of yourself so
that she can open up to you. She can be like, I know a little bit about this guy. I
want to ask him another question for I know a little bit about this guy. He's just
told me something. Now I can tell him something. That's what it's all about.
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Let me give you a few examples of ways that you can use bait in a conversation.
This one came from this past weekend. I was talking to ... I saw the girl with her
sandals and I'm like, "Oh my God, you're wearing sandals. That's amazing." She's
like, "Yeah, why is it amazing?" "First warm day of spring. It's so awesome. I just
got back from Mexico. Everybody's wearing sandals down there." That's my bait.
I'm thinking to myself, "I got to throw in something cool about myself, high value.
I love Mexico. I'm going to talk about it anyway." She's like, "Oh really, where
were you in Mexico?" I'm like, "Pio Del Carmen area. Have you ever been?" "No, I
haven't." "You haven't been to Pio Del Carmen, oh my God. Time out, hang on
one second." You can already see where this is going.
Then I started talking to her friend, "Have you been down there?" She's like, "No,
but I've been to other parts in Mexico." I'm like, "Oh where?" Now, we're having a
back and forth conversations open. I'm leading it but they ended up asking me
more about myself further in the conversation. This is just the smallest little thing
where I was like, "Yeah, I was just in Mexico." They're like, "Where in Mexico?"
Great, I got them giving back to me.
Another one, I'm standing at the bar and the song I Want to Dance with
Somebody, I think it's by Whitney Houston that comes on. I'm there with some
friends. As my face lights up, I see another girl right nearby and her face lit up too.
She's like, "Everybody loves this song." I look at her and I just like say, "Oh my
God. This song reminds me of being at a wedding." She's like, "Oh yeah, it's
amazing."
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I'm like, "Yeah, it reminds me of college. It reminds me of so many things." "What
does it remind you of?" She starts talking about it and then ... but it put all these
little hooks in there and she came back to me and she's like, "Where did you go to
school? Why did it remind you of the wedding?" I've already inserted in the very
beginning of my conversation all these little hooks for her to ask about.
Another, third example. This is again just from this past weekend. I was out at the
bar and I see this girl drinking a drink called Franbois. It's a sort of raspberryish
beer. I'm like, "Oh man, I love that. Didn't even know they serve it here." She's
like, "Yeah, totally." I was like, "I first had Franbois, I think I first had Franbois, I
want to say like it was back in college, maybe." She's like, "Oh, where'd you go to
college?" It's just obvious bait. You noticed how I paused for a second. "I first had
Franbois, jeez, I want to say I first had it back in college, I think. Yeah, it was a long
time ago."
Again, it's not the best bait. It's not that compelling but it's compelling enough.
She's like, "Where did you go to college?" I'm like, "Michigan. How about you?" I
went to blah, blah, blah. "Cool, how'd you like it there?" Now, we're in a back and
forth conversation, just that simple, conversation's open. Now, what's going to
happen is if you're able to have a little bit of back and forth conversation.
She's going to start asking you questions. Sometimes, you want to answer right
off the bat. I just gave you some examples of me answering right off the bat.
Other times, when she ask you questions, you want to answer in kind of different
way, in a unique way.
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The first thing I like to do is I like to give a non answer. This is basically what I call
the double answer non answer. Let's say she says, "Where are you from?" You
say, "I'm just this little guy form the Midwest." She's going to say, "Midwest.
Where in the Midwest?" You can say, "Detroit," that's what I would say. That's the
double answer, right? The first answer that you give is kind of a vague general
description. You didn't even talk about yourself, "Just a little guy from the
Midwest." Another example, double answer non answer. She says, "What do you
do for work?" "I just run the most interesting business in the world?" She goes,
"What kind of business?" Then you get into it.
There's going to be common things that you get to ask. One of them is what is
your job, another is where are you from. Another one is where you went to
college. I want you to have double answers for the common things that you could
ask. "Where do you live in town?" If somebody says to me, "Where do you live in
town?" I'm like, "Dangerous, dangerous neighborhood." They're like, "Which
one?" I'm like, "The Upper West Side." Which is not a dangerous neighborhood at
all so it's kind of like a joke in that. Have some double answers for the stuff she
asks.
Now, don't let her ask more than two questions in a row. Some women will like to
ask you question after question after question. This is where you got to throw it
back on them. Let's take the Mexico example. She says, "Where in Mexico were
you?" I'll like, "I was in Pio Del Carmen." You can just let it hang, right?
Let her ask another question. "Did you like it there?" "Yeah, I loved it. It was like
absolutely so perfect. Have you ever been down there?" She says, "No. I haven't
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been." "You got to go girl. You got to go." Now, I can throw in some more bait
here at this point. I'll be like, "Everyday, we just did the activities down there were
incredible." Now shes' going to say, "What were the activities?" "Well, we did
some kayaking. We did some," notice, I'm even saying we. That's even a subtle
element of bait.
I'm very conscious of my word at this point. I am allowing her to find all these
little things that she wants to ask questions about. But let's go back to that initial
interaction that I just showed with you. I showed you. She says, "Where were
you?" I said Pio Del Carmen. She says, "How was it?" I said, "Amazing. Have you
ever been there?" I'm not going to let her ask a third question. A couple of
reasons, the first one is if she is in a habit of asking too many questions, A, she
may just get bored and she might just be like this guy only likes to talk about
himself. B, she is going to start to lead the conversation and be in control of it and
that's not what you want.
Usually a good rule is let her ask two questions and then ask a have you ever, will
you ever, would you ever thing about the experience that she's asking you about.
That's usually a good rule. If she is asking too many questions, if she is the type
who asks a lot of questions, you can gently accuse her of grilling you.
You can be like, "Jeez, this is like Spanish inquisition or something. This is
incredible. I haven't been questioned this much since I was convicted for grand
theft auto when I was in the interrogation chamber." It's just a funny way of
teasing her, you can throw it back off her. Hopefully you won't be getting in the
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situation. I just want to give you that one in case you get somebody who really
likes to grill you.
Moving along, getting her to open up to you, when you are talking to her, you've
already baited her a little bit and she's intrigued. Now, you have ... Moving along
and getting her to open up to you. You've baited her a little bit and she's like,
"This guy is kind of fun to talk to. He doesn't give away everything right upfront. I
have to work a little bit." Then you double answer her question and she's worked
even harder. It's fun. She's like, "I really like this guy." Now, you got to get her to
open up to you. You've got to get her to start going personal with you. Very first
thing you want to do when you're talking to a girl is you want to start painting a
picture in your mind of the things that she is telling you.
This is if there's one thing that you take away from this course, more than
anything else, I hope is this one. Paint a picture in your mind as she's talking and
then fill in the gaps. It's just that simple. She's talking about backpacking or if she's
talking about the trip that she took or if she's talking about even where she lives.
There's so much that is unfilled in that picture.
Now, the next thing you want to do is as you start to ask questions to get her to
film a picture, you can tease her, we'll get into that in a second. But what you
ultimately want to do, the thrust of your conversation, the direction of your
conversation, is you want to take things personal. You want to be asking why does
she do this and what was she thinking and feeling in that moment or in that
experience.
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For example, if it's talking about backpacking, you could be asking her, "Why do
you like backpacking? I got to be honest, for me, best place in nature is just right
on the beach. What about backpacking is it for you?" Then she'll start to describe
it, right? This is where you can get really personal with a girl really quickly. You're
diving into something about why she likes something, why it defines her.
Maybe she could say something, "I don't know. I just like being in the wilderness
and kind of creating the world around and kind of fending for myself." Now,
you've learned all these stuff about her. "Wow, that's so cool. If the revolution
comes, you're going to be prepared. Just take care of yourself when all the cities
disappeared."
She'll be like, "Yeah, that's awesome." "You're totally going to have to take care of
me because I'm just going to ... I have no idea how to live without my laptop."
Now again, this is back and forth. I'm getting a little bit ahead of myself but I'm
trying to show you where it can go if you start getting personal with her. The
point is ask why does she do this and what is she thinking and feeling when she's
doing this. It all starts with painting that picture. Ultimately, again, what you want
to get to is what does that tell you about her?
That's the thing, paint a picture, why does she do this, what is she thinking and
feeling and what does that tell you about her. Because she must be a free spirit,
that she must love to get out. There's some things you can kind of always assume
or always cold read about a girl.
You can cold read that she's a chill person. You can cold read that she's
adventurous. You can cold read that she's loyal. You can cold read that she's
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spontaneous. You can cold read that she's fun. You can cold read that she's
reserved. All of these things based on what she's telling you about what she's
thinking and feeling. If she's talking about camping you can say, "Wow, that
sounds like you're a super adventurous person." She'll be like, "Yeah, totally."
"What other adventurous things you do?"
She starts talking about that. "I don't really know. I guess that's kind of my only
one." "That's okay. I like to do snowboarding. I think that's pretty adventurous.
Personally, I built a little ramp one time but I've never built a forest fire in the
woods. I would have no idea how to do that. You'll have to show me sometime."
I'm getting a little ahead of myself here but again I'm trying to point out once you
start getting the story about who the girl is and you start getting her to open up
to you, what you want to really get to is calling out the conversation traits that
that represents.
All right. Let's move along. The next thing that you want to do is you want to spice
it up with some flirting. Flirting is great. There's all sorts of ways to flirt. There's a
couple that I'm going to give you right here. They're so easy. I've already given
you these things to stir up emotion like, "You wouldn't say that." The biggest
flirtation thing that is such a huge part of my vocabulary is future projecting.
Putting her and I into a scenario together in the future. This is an old standby but I
use it all the time. If you're not using it, you should start.
Future projecting is basically like let's say that you guys have both been to
Mexico. You could say, "We're going to go to Mexico together. We both loved it
so much. We're definitely going to have to go down there together." Another
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future projection would be, "I've never been hunting before. You're going to have
to take me hunting." Or "I've never been out to the wilderness before. You're
going to have to take me out there." Or "I've never been to that restaurant before
but I love that style of food. You and me, we're going to go there and you're going
to tell me exactly what to order on the menu because I know that you know that
restaurant." Those are all future projections.
You notice the assertiveness with which I said them. I mean, that last one, I could
have just met a girl and said, "You, me, we're going to that restaurant and you're
going to show me exactly what to order on technology menu because I know that
you know it's good." It's that sort of assertiveness. She's going to be laughing,
"Okay. Yeah, yeah." Then I'm going to throw in some other stuff. Those are future
projections.
Now, the other side of future projections in where you can kind of have even
more fun and get a second laugh out of it is you think about it this way, the future
projection is going to get a laugh. Then she's going to expect the conversation
drop. You're going to get one more laugh by doing a frame or a tease. We've
talked about this a little bit already.
A frame or tease is kind of like treating her like your kid brother. Anything that
you would say to a kid brother or a kid sister about how they're always getting in
trouble, how they're causing trouble, how they make a mess all over the place,
how they maybe like to steal things. Any sort of playful accusation about why she
is going to be troubled, that's what teasing and framing is.
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For example, "We're going to go to that restaurant but I don't want you stealing
the silverware like you did last time. I know about that. It was in the papers. I
can't have you doing that." That's a tease. It's a frame, right? I'm framing her like
somebody who steals silverware. It's ridiculous. It's ugly ridiculous but it's funny.
Let's give you another example of Mexico. We're back talking about ... I like
talking about Mexico in case you haven't noticed. I'm talking about Mexico. I say,
"Yeah, we should totally go down there. It would be such a good time." That's my
future projection, right?
She's going to say, "Yeah, yeah. It will be such a great time." I'll be, "But no skinny
dipping. I know you're the type. I don't know that well enough yet. My mom
would be very disappointed with you." She'll laugh at that, right? I could even
throw in a tease in the beginning. I could be like, when I say, "Yeah, been down to
Mexico." She goes ... "Have you been down there?" She's like, "Yeah, I have."
"You would say something like that." Again, that's framing her. It's teasing her.
She'll be like, "What? Why would I say something like that?" "I've got you pegged.
I got my eye on you. Okay, just kidding. Tell me where you've been in Mexico?"
You can throw stuff like that into the conversation. It's really funny. Those are
really simple ways. Future projection and teasing and framing to get the
conversation into like, just take it from the talking about each other to we're
having fun talking about this. I want to give you, to wrap this section up, I want to
give you a couple of easy hooks that come up in conversations. These are things
that I've seen time and time again and they've just kind of become a part of my
vocabulary.
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First one is the weather. This is just an easy way to get her to laugh and to move
on to something else. Let's say the weather is really shitty. You're standing next to
her at the bar. You're ordering a drink. You're like, "Oh man, this weather just
sucks. I cannot wait for it to get better." She's like, "Yeah, I know. I know. I know."
Let's say it's amazing out. It's sandals for example. "Oh, you're wearing sandals.
That's sweet. Doesn't it feel so good to have amazing weather. I'm such an
outdoors person. I'm so happy right now." She's like, "Yeah." You just got to start
talking about the weather.
Point is, if you're talking about this, what you can do is you can be, "Wait, one
second. One second. Everybody talks about the weather. This is the most boring
conversation topic in the world. Let's talk about something else. What do you do
for work?" It's funny because you've just called out the fact that everybody talks
about the weather and now you're jumping into something else boring. "What do
you do for work?"
She's just going to laugh about it. But it's a funny way to transition from talking
about the weather to talking about something else. If you use the principles that
I've just showed you hear about why does stuff, teasing her a little bit, framing
her, then that mixed with those as you're talking about her work or as you're
talking about where she lives, that's another one.
You can say, "Everybody talks about the weather. Let's talking about something
really unique. Where in town do you live?" You can see my delivery on that one.
"Let's talk about something really unique. What part of the city do you live in?" Or
"Let's talk about something really special that you've never talked about before.
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What do you do for work?" It will just get her to laugh. Do that. Add any other
stuff, really easy.
Another one that's come up is if you want up to a girl and you say, "Hey, what's
up?" Nine times out of 10, she'll say back like, "Not much. What's up with you?"
She's like, "You gave me shit to work with. I'm going to give you shit to work
with." Now, I'm going to show something funny you can say right here. You can
say, "Not much, I was just up there. It's nice. The air is a little bit different. The air
is a little thinner.
It's not quite as loud but it's a little more smokey than it is down here." At this
point, she's just looking at you. She's like, "What?" You'll be like, "Yeah, I was up
there. I was looking down at you and I noticed you down here. I was actually
trying to get your attention." She's like, "Really?" "Yeah, you didn't see me waving
when I was up there?" She's like, "No, I didn't notice."
"Tell you what, I'm going to go back up there again in just a second. In case you
don't see me again, I better get your name so I can call down at you and say
hello." Whenever I've done that, girls just crack up. I'm going to give you a little
transcript to that one. You don't have to memorize it right now but basically if
somebody says what's up to you, the basic premises, you talk about how you
were up there.
Then transition it to, "I was trying to wave at you and get your attention but I
didn't see you." End by saying, "But if I go back up there, I'm going to need your
name to call down at you. What's your name?" That one, I came up with it
actually on a boot camp when I was drilling back and forth with Jodie. I was doing
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some demonstration. She's one of our female coaches. It just kind of came up
spontaneously. It clicked so well. I was like, "I'm just going to keep using this."
Those are two easy hooks. Those will make things happen all over the place. Let
me tell you one final one. It's a five-‐step hook I call it. It's also known as instant
attraction. It's a really easy way to transition from your opening to something
personal. If you haven't heard me talk about this one before, great. If you have,
you might learn something that you never know. Basically, you want to start by
baiting about a high value story. We'll just stick with Mexico. For your sake, we're
going to pick a vacation spot that you've been. I'm going to talk about it, "Yeah, I
was down in Mexico. I loved it down there. It's so peaceful when I'm down there."
She's like, "Yeah," you're having a little bit of back and forth.
What you want to keep coming back to is like, "I just love sitting on the beach,
feeling the wind, breeze over me. I am so at peace in that moment. What's
something for you that really puts you at peace?" Step one, talk about yourself
and talk about the personality traits. It puts me at peace. It makes me chill. It
makes me adventurous. It makes me happy. It makes me have fun, whatever. Talk
about yourself. Talk about personality trait.
Step two, ask her if she has ever done anything like that personality trait or with
that personality trait. What's something that puts you at peace? What's
something that you just feel adventure in your heart when you do it? What's
something super spontaneous that you've done in your life? Now, she's going to
answer it. "I feel at peace when I'm on horseback." "Really? Horseback, why?" Let
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her talk about it, "There's just something about it, like being on the horse. I've
been doing it for so long."
"That's cool. I've never gone horseback riding. I feel like it'd be kind of
challenging. Did it take a long time to get to that point where you could just be
one with the horse?" "Yeah, it took me forever." "You must be like super
dedicated to that? It must be something you really love." "Yeah, I just love it."
"How long ..." you can see, I can ask questions on and on.
You want to talk about this for a long time. Once you've finally gotten to that
point and you can say, "Wow, you're so dedicated. That's so cool. You've got
something you love like that. Hey listen, I'll tell you what. I've got an idea, let's do
this. Let's just have the ultimate peaceful experience. We're going to go down to
Mexico. I'm going to find some horses and we're going to ride them along the
beach. How amazing would that be? Do you want to do that with me?" She'll be
like, "Yeah." I'll be like, "Awesome. That's great. What's your name? I probably
need to know that before we go down there."
At times and I've taught this in the past, I've talked about how I got drunk and
went to Mexico and it was the most spontaneous thing I've ever did. What's
something spontaneous she's done and then combine the spontaneous stories.
The point is very simple. You want to take a story of your own life and talk about
how it makes you feel something or how is the personality trait of yours. You
want to ask her if she's done anything with that personality trait and get her to
answer. You want to talk about her thing and then you want to combine those
into a future projection.
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I'll tell you what. You do all the stuff we've just talked about here, you'll create so
much intrigue about who you are and get her opening up to you. You'll get her
asking like, "Who is this amazing guy who's talking to me in a way that no man
does in a bar?" That's the awesome thing about this. Up to this point, we've
talked about getting her attention. We've talked about stirring to the emotional
path. We've talked about intrigued. We're going to end with one more little thing
and that's how to make it easy on yourself.
We've been through a lot. I got to tell you, I'm a little fatigued right now. I've been
going through all this stuff. You've got a lot in front of you. You're probably
swimming with this information right now. You're like, "Oh man, there's so much
great stuff in here. How am I going to use it?" What I want to do is I want to give
you some advice on how to make things easy for yourself when you're out and
talk to girls. Going on and talking to girls should be fun, you already know that.
Let's figure out how to make it easy. There's going to be four little bits of advice
I'd give you.
The first one, find the easy shots. If you're a basketball player, there's a lot of
glory in making a three point throw from the half court line but the amount of
times you're going to make that is not that ... it's just not going to happen that
often. Especially, when you're first getting into this. If you're not good at
approaching already.
Especially, there are like in the early nights, the early part of the night when
you're out. When you're going out and you're just starting to get your social
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momentum going. The easy shots are the girls who are open. It's just that simple.
You want to look for girls who are open.
Girls who are open are standing there. They're kind of half into their conversation
with each other but they're half scanning the room. They're not talking to groups
of other guys. They're not secluded in the back corner of the room. They're not
the groups that you go at for the glory of impressing your friends. They're just the
girls who are like, "We want to talk to somebody." You're going to find those girls
typically at the bar. You can find those against the walls. Anywhere where they're
just standing there and you can kind of see they're half open. Those are open
girls. I am telling you, you have to start your evening by talking to open girls.
There are going to be girls who are closed off and cold. They're just not as easy to
talk to. Find the open girls to talk to. Sometimes, they're even just standing in the
middle of the damn room. It's just as easy as putting yourself near them and
starting conversation like that. That's one easy shots is girls who's open.
Another one, girls who are wearing something quirky or unique. You want to note
that other guys might comment on it too but I want you to look extra hard. Three
things that I look at are shoes, earrings and eyeliner. I've already talked about the
direct compliment opener with respect to earrings and eyeliner. Shoes is another
great one. Most girls, especially if they're going out for a good evening, they wear
really cool shoes. They think, in their heads, they're like, "These shoes are going to
impress somebody, usually some girl." The problem is, when you're out, how
often do your eyes venture anywhere below her breast line, almost never.
Nobody ever compliments a girl on her shoes.
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If you see a cool girl with really cool shoes, it's a really easy shot. It's like, "Wow,
those are amazing shoes. Where did you get those from?" Whenever a girl, I
always like to do this, whenever a girl says ... whenever you compliment a girl on
a wardrobe item, I almost always jokingly say something like, "I was so thinking of
wearing that myself tonight." Because obviously I'm not thinking of wearing
women's shoes.
You can either say that or "Where did you get that? I have to get some of my
own." It's like, "Where did you get those shoes? Those are gorgeous. I have been
looking for shoes like that for ages. I'm dying to get some. You got to tell me
where you got them." It's really funny. It's an really easy shot. Same thing with
earrings. If a girl is wearing special or cool earrings, that's another easy one.
Again, for earrings, matching eyeliner, you're so in.
Girl who are doing something interactive. Maybe they're taking a shot together.
Maybe they're toasting together. You don't want to jump in on a shot but right
afterwards. You can be like, "Hey, what's celebration?" That's an easy one to get
on. One that I love is if you are type who likes to dance, it can be on a dance floor,
kind of catch a girl's eye during a popular song where she's really having fun and
dance near her but don't dance on her. Some guys have really good dance floor
game. If you're one of them then you probably don't need to be watching this.
If you don't have great dance floor game, like me, what I like to do is I like
basically ... if a really good song comes on, I like to dance near a girl and I kind of
like catch her eye. I'll be like, "Yeah," just having fun. I got a nice big smile on my
face but I'm doing my own thing. Then after that song goes off, I'll maybe go talk
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to her like, "Oh man, it's such a great song. I love that one. You dance so
amazingly to it. It made me want to dance with you but I don't know you. What's
your name?"
This is an opener that I don't really talk about that much but it's definitely
something that I use on the dance floor where I admit that I suck at dancing
because I'll be like, "I want to dance with you but I'm not the best dancer and I
don't know you yet so I didn't want to impose. But I had to get to know you
because you look like you're having so much fun. What's your name?" Great
opener. The girl is in a really good emotional state from just having danced, it's
great. Again, super easy shot.
Another easy shot is girls who are drinking something unique. Maybe they've got
a really unique colored thing in there. "Whoa, what is that?" Or eating something
unique at a coffee shop or a restaurant with communal tables. If they're drinking
something unique, something you can ... again, little one-‐liner that I like to use is
"What is that? That looks so delicious and so girly." They'll be, "Yeah, yeah." I'm
going to be like, "I might have to order one of those. I got to tell you, I was not
trying on getting girly drink drunk tonight but that looks good."
The one-‐liner is girl drink drunk. I think I got that from the Kids in the Hall skits but
girls love ... it's really one of those things they latch on to. They just laugh at it, "I
wasn't planning on getting girly drink drunk tonight. How about you guys, are you
getting girly drink drunk or you're going to be switching over to scotch at some
point?" Again, really easy shot. Those are the easy shots. That's how you want to
start your evening if you're not good at the stuff already, those are the girls that
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you want to be approaching. If you want to talk the really hot girls or what I call
the cold girls, there's a strategy for that too.
There are girls who you'll see they're like closed off or they're like really inclusive
in their group, they're just not talking to everybody. Sometimes they will be
standing at the bar but the difference is they'll be like closed off at the bar rather
than open up at the bar. They're standing in their little group. They don't want to
talk to anybody else. You got to recognize, these are cold girls. They not super
open to talking to people.
Maybe they look a little nervous. Often times you'll see what happens is really hot
girls are like this because they're trying to figure out subconsciously, "Where are
the cool guys? Who are the guys I want to talk to? Who are the guys who are just
going to take the bait?"
When hot girls walk into bars, there's always like ... have seen Braveheart?
There's this great scene where ... I can't remember, was it King Richard, I think
King Richard was a good king. Whoever the king is, he sends in the front line and I
think he sends in the Irish first. He's like, "Yeah, send in the Irish. They are the
front lines. I don't mind if they get killed." There is always a front line of guys who
will approach the hot girls first. Usually, those guys will get shut down. It's very
rare that the front line doesn't get shut down.
You don't want to be on the front line with the hot girls. They need to warm up.
They need to feel like, "Okay, we got the guys who we shut down." Beyond that,
they don't want the guy who is like, "Yo, hot girl. Bam." They want a guy who is
having fun in his own rights and like, "Okay, I guess I'll go talk to them because
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I've gotten some eye contact already." That's the point. Don't be on the front
lines. Don't be the guy who sees hot girls and be like right on them because there
will be other guys, you don't have to worry about that.
The way I like to work with groups like this, I will get close to them. I'll get
proximity maybe with my friends. I'll ordering a drink or I'll be nearby, I'll have a
conversation. I'll get eye contact from them and I'll get it once. I'll keep over. Once
I get that eye contact, I might try to use a nonverbal opener. We talked about that
in the previous week. I might try to use a nonverbal opener. If I don't get them to
open up, done. I'm not looking at them anymore. I'm going to hang out there for a
little bit longer, maybe like five minutes, keep talking to friends and we're going
to move on. I'm not going to engage them.
I'm going to go talk to other people in the bar. I'm going to have fun. I'm going to
talk to the open people, enjoy my evening. Maybe 15, 20, 30 minutes later, I'm
going to see if I get eye contact from the cold girls again, nine times out of 10, I
do. Now, I can go back and reengage. It can be something simple as, "How's your
night going, nutter butter?" Or "What's up, trucker?" That is where I would use
that sort of the nickname opener. Sort of reopening a cold girl who I'm trying to,
hopefully is now warm and who I've made some eye contact with once already
and I'm just going in and I'm assuming that I'm friends with her.
Speaking of assuming friendship, let's move on to number three. This is the third
way that you're going to make it easy on yourself. This is more of your own
mindset than it is something you're going to do. But I do like to assume friendship
with everybody in the bar. It's like an air by myself. It's a casual way of
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approaching people. Basically, how a friend or a casual acquaintance speak to a
girl who he was interested in. You want to assume that she wants to talk to you.
In fact, if you take that thought in your mind, I assume this girl is going to want to
talk to me. We'll work with clients sometimes on coaching programs where we
say, "This girl wants to talk to you. Go talk to her." We load him up with that
thought in his mind. If you assume that she wants to talk to me, she's friendly, it
will, nine times out of 10, manifest itself in the right way. Going back all the way
to the first lesson of this course when we talked about approaching anxiety, this is
one of those visualization exercises you can do to make it a lot easier on yourself.
When you are assuming friendship, you're not going to spew words in a million
miles a minute. You're also not working too hard to justify your presence to her.
The basic vibe she should be feeling from you is like, "I talk to girls all the time. I'm
having fun talking to you. Let's enjoy being together." That's assuming friendship.
Fourth way you can make it easier on yourself is what I call doing a lot with a
little. The more that you work for her, the more value that you give. That's a good
old equation. If you talk too much, if you talk too fast, you got too much
movement, if you're talking too much about her, putting too much on her, if
you're jumping around, if you're going too fast, that, you're doing a lot of work.
Again, sometimes these habits die hard. That's why guys come in for coaching.
But what to do instead, go back and review all the nonverbals from the previous
lesson. Nonverbals are critical in getting this stuff right. You want to get
nonverbals right. You want to have them be very simplified, be very chill, that's
the first thing.
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Second thing is called is called pausing and buffering. This is something that Nick
came up with. He speaks of it extensively in his fearless program. Pausing and
buffering is really simple but really difficult. Kind of like that game Othello. Pause
and buffer is when somebody gives you an answer to something, you go,
"Really?" That's it. Let's say they say ... you say, "Where do you live in town?"
They're like, "I live on the Upper East Side." Pause. Buffer, "Really?" It's just that
simple. That is the pause and buffer. Usually, it gets them to open up even more.
This is something you can do with women, something you can do with guys.
"What's your favorite type of food?" "I love seafood." "Interesting." The specifics
of the pause and buffer are you're not passing a judgment one way or the other.
They don't know if you validating or if you haven't. You're just saying, "Please,
give me more." That's a really easy way to do a lot with a little. Breaking up your
stories when you're talking, we talked about that, how you don't want to answer
in full sentences.
If somebody says, "What do you do?" "I just work at the most interesting
company in the world." "What's that?" "We work with guys to help them become
more confident. That's my job, let's talk about yours?" "I write the coolest
software programs in the world. I love it." "What do you love about it?" Now
you're off but you're breaking up your stories. You're not telling your stories in full
chunks.
Then finally, you want to always be asking yourself why or what does that mean?
That is, that thing right there, if you're asking yourself why or what does that
mean about the girl who you're talking to, it's going to make things so much
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easier because you're not going to have to ask a whole bunch of questions. You're
just going to be thinking, "What does that tell me about her? What about her
personality is that? How can we connect?"
Man, that is a whole lot of material. I've got some great transcripts for you. I'm
going to give you some stuff to go out and do and say in your homework. I want
you to pick some of these. I want you to go out and use them. You could be
working on just the material in this course for the next six months, just the
material in this particular lesson for the next six months.
But go back, find some stuff that you like that really connected with you. Put it
into practice this week. You are going to be opening so many conversations with
this. When you get this stuff, it's so natural. It's so easy. You're going to have so
much fun with it. Go out and enjoy it.
I will catch you next time when we are talking about specific openers for specific
situations but I don't want you to hold off, I do want you to go out and be putting
in the work and going out and doing some approaches right now. You're going to
have a lot of fun.
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Hey, man, welcome to Say Hello, course four. I'm Christian Hudson, and today we
are going to talk about what to say to girls, where. Specific things to discuss with
women, and where you're meeting them, and how to be aware of the situational
logistics, and the things that you're dealing with in these situations that are going
to change how you start that conversation. We're going to go over what
happened in the last three weeks, talk about some feedback that I've gotten from
guys based on their experiences when they went out and did the homework, and
then we're going to jump right into it.
Let's talk about what we've covered just in case you haven't seen some of the
episodes or you skipped ahead to this one. Week one we discussed and talked
about the mindset of approaching, and this is really critical. If you did not watch
that, or you really didn't internalize that stuff, I got to tell you, man, that is the
foundation of where all of this comes from, really critical you be on top of that.
Go back. Really stick that into your iPod or something, and get into it. That is a
great bit of material right there.
In lesson two, we talked about the nonverbals and the way that you just move
your body, your eye contact, all that. Equally important to the mindset, and it's
one of those things that if you're starting to implement some mechanical changes
to the way that you move, whether it be with your eyes, or your body, or
whatever, it can a little awkward, and we're going to get to a comment about that
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in just a second, but, again, equally important. You got to have that body
language down, otherwise the girl just feels like your vibing them weird.
Last week, we talked about how to hook. The feel of your words, the things that
actually come out of your mouth, topical, personal, interpersonal, and, yeah, we
gave you some very specific examples of how to hook a conversation, and
specifically how that first few minutes should flow in terms of what you're talking
about, what she's talking about, what's going on there. A lot of great feedback on
that one, and hopefully it was very helpful to you.
As you know, I don't like to use routines, but there are certain things that I will go
to and remember and say early in the conversation, just to give it some oomph,
and make sure that I get to the point where we can be connecting with each
other. That was what was going on in the last course.
You're not where you want to be at this point. There's a couple things that I can
share with you. The first is have you really paid attention to everything that's
been going on. I know that when I do this stuff, sometimes I'm halfhearted about
learning and getting better, and then I'm like, "Well, shit, I'm just not quite where
I want to be." It happens. Go back, look it over, do it some more. Take advantage
of the forum. Get in there. Share your thoughts, talk about what's going on, and
share what's going on in your life.
If you're not doing the homework, you're missing out on a huge part of this
course, and I know that some of you guys just do not do the homework, and
you're just assuming that by assimilating information, you'll get better. That's just
not how you get better with this stuff. Your brain learns social skills by actually
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doing it, by making mistakes, which I know is tough, by making mistakes, by
getting coaching.
Of course, we offer coaching. But by making mistakes, getting coaching, seeing
examples of it, and then just kind of assimilating and going through that whole
process. If you're not actually doing it, there's not a whole lot that I can do.
Beyond that, you don't get results if you don't take action, so you got to take
action on this stuff.
I want to discuss a few things that were said from people who have been going
through and specifically their experiences in the past week after course three.
Somebody was saying situation openers, they still feel kind of awkward for me, so
when I'm just trying to pick up on something in the situation and have a
conversation with a girl.
Honestly, answering this question is a great way of answering a bigger issue that a
lot of guys have, which is situational and it really doesn't matter. It's more about
you and the girl, and what's going on after the opener, so you can say anything
about the situation. Like, "Man, it's really warm in this bar," and she is like, "No,
it's not. It's actually kind of cool in here.” Be like, "You must be like a reptile or
something, or cold blooded. Are you just a fake human, or is there lizard skin
beneath there?" Whatever, it's all about handling that response, and now you're
into the conversation, having some fun and bantering.
The situational opener itself, just getting some words out there to get her
attention on you. That’s really all it's all about. I know that I used to get really
hung up on like, "I've got to come up with the most clever thing about this
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situation. Something that she's going to be so interested to talk about," and that's
just not the case with situational openers. It's just about getting some words out
of your mouth to get her attention on you, so you guys can start having a back
and forth. That's really where it's at.
Some other feedback we got, which is remembering how to hook is hard, and I've
given you several examples of how to hook, and specific procedures and
mechanisms and all that. Listen. This is a new skill that a lot of you are learning.
You're learning new instincts. If you think of it this way, like I am literally today, as
I sit down to record this, I just got a new motorcycle, and my instinct is on a
bicycle to have brakes on both sides and not to have a clutch over here. It's really
weird trying to acclimate to the clutch, and it almost is very embarrassing, so I'm
going to take it out later tonight and drive it around when nobody's watching.
These are new skills that we're learning, and you have to accept that you're either
going to fail, unfortunately, with a woman. It's not nearly as bad as if you let your
motorcycle go crashing, but with respect to the clutch, I stalled out a bunch of
times, and when you're working on hooking, you might stall out, but you have to
take your ego out of this whole thing. You have to say, "Look, I'm learning a new
skill. That’s it. I'm going to get good at this at some point." I've given you the path.
I've given you the techniques. You've got to go out and put them into practice.
Just keep working on that. I know that it can be awkward, but keep pushing
through. You're going to get there, and if you don't, come see us for coaching.
The third bit of feedback that I had to share with you is ... It's funny. I was out,
and you've obviously heard me talking about the bombing opener. Some girl
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came up to me, and she tried hitting on me with a variant of the bombing opener.
It was something like, "Hey, I bet you have a really nice penis." It was so funny.
She was clearly drunk, and her friends were over there giggling. The bombing
opener in as much as it was a really over the top ... It's either going to go really
well, or it's going to tank miserably.
The thing is, this girl was not that cute. I just wasn't that into her, but you know
what was funny was she was so bold, and I was so taken aback. I was like even
though she's not super-‐hot, I'm going to allow myself to have this interaction with
her. She turned out to be pretty quick witted, and we went back and forth, and
we had a good time. We got her friends involved. I got my guys involved, and it
was just a fun group. Of course, I didn't continue anything with the girl, but it was
still a fun group. We had a good time.
Girls do this stuff, too. They have to go through it, too. They’re just as nervous as
you are in most cases. We do those bombing openers, and just when you
approach, you have to understand some people, like myself, are going to be nice.
Others, not so much. It just depends on who the person is.
This one I've got to read off the PowerPoint deck here. This guy wrote, "The
reason for asking this is, as you probably guessed, I had these two situations just
recently, and although I kept eye contact long, I kind of felt that I had a quite
expressionless face during it." We've talked about having facial expressiveness,
and the importance of that. When you are being facially expressive with a
woman, it's going to feel a lot more genuine. That's the human level of the
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interaction. You're not just running through like, "If she does this, then I do that. If
she does this, then I do that."
With that said, when you are going through this stuff and you're learning it, and
you're trying new stuff out, it is awkward from time to time, and you're trying to
be conscious about remembering your eye contact, but then you're like, "Ah,
crap. I'm not moving my face around." That's okay. That's why you go out and
your practice this stuff. That's why we're going through this course. That's why a
lot of guys either move to a big city to practice it, like New York or LA or whatever,
or come to a big city to practice it with coaching, so that they've got that
experience.
The point being, as you put all these little nuances together, they will get better
and better. I was definitely awkward at every single one of these things, and I just
was very deliberate about going out, speaking with women, and allowing myself
to be awkward, just as I remembered, and I would test stuff out and be like,
"Okay, remember to do that. Did I do this? Okay. Yeah, got it. Good." It just took
some time, so it's okay if it's still awkward. That's fine. You are trying to put a lot
of little things together here. That's why this is not an overnight course. That's
why we have homework for you, so allow for that awkwardness to be. You are
working towards a goal. You're working through a process.
I think one important thing to realize is that events ... People often look at a guy
who picks up a girl, and they look at it as an event. They're like, "Wow. He picked
up that girl. He's got great pickup skills." Not true. He's been through a process of
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making himself better with women every step of the way, and that's what you're
going through right now, so just remember that.
Just because you don't pick up one girl in that one particular event, you are going
through a process of learning to get better. That's the important thing to focus on
here. Trust me. If I can do this, and I used to be really awkward. I've said this a
million times before. I used to be really awkward. Didn't know shit about anything
here. You can definitely do it. If you're feeling a little awkward about it, just keep
barreling on through. Trust me. There's light at the end of the tunnel.
Let me just hit on a few other broad topics. The people who are really putting the
work in are finding that this is a lot less difficult than they thought it was. They're
like, "Oh, shit, I just actually have to go out and start conversations. Keep a few
things in mind. It's not that hard." It's true.
The guys who are doing repeated approaching and who are regularly doing this,
what I'll see is two, three weeks in, if they're keeping up their journals on the
forum, they're really starting to get it, and they're getting excited about it. Maybe
I'm not even responding as much they want me to be, and they're like, "I want
some attention here. I'm getting really good at this." The guys who are doing it,
they're feeling a lot more confident. They're getting really good. Specifically
they're leading with emotions. They're finding that this is not all about, "I got to
go say some words." They're really having fun with it and enjoying themselves,
and that’s the good part of it.
With that, let's jump into the official part of course four, which is what to say and
where. Chances are, you've heard this day game versus night game distinction, or
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club game. As Race and I like to ... We always joke about this stuff, because we
created this whole thing about text game. Text game is pretty specific, and then
we were like, "How do we get more specific? How about Spiderman game," like if
you're Spiderman, or stairwell game, and we'll get even more into than that. If
you're walking up a stairwell and you see a forty year old woman game. Yeah.
Let's talk about these distinctions and different types of game and different types
of opening scenarios.
The biggest one that we really identify is sober versus alcohol involved, and that is
a huge one. We'll get into that in just a moment. Indoor versus outdoor, that's
another big distinction. Another one, single woman versus groups. If it's just one
woman or maybe two, it's very different than if it's a group. All female groups
versus male female mixed groups. That's another big distinction. Then we'll start
to talk obviously about approaching groups in different venues, and, finally, what
to do if it is some people who you kind of know, a warm introduction or
something like that, because Lord knows that happens to me. I don't want you to
go without the answer to that one.
Let's talk about this whole distinction of sober versus alcoholized and all that, as
opposed to day versus night, because, as I said, it's a very important distinction.
Alcohol does play a big role in human interactions. We have these social rules that
we have to follow on a day by day basis, and we have our natural desires, and
alcohol, of course, removes the filter, and allows us to get a little bit more in
touch with our natural desires and bring those out.
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It's no coincidence that this drug, chemical, whatever you want to call it has such
a wonderful place in society for so long, and frankly, I love it. I love to drink, not
too heavily, but I love the feeling of the cold beer on a warm day, a nice glass of
wine at dinner, and, sure, when I go out to the bar, I love having a couple drinks. It
just heightens the enjoyment of my night.
Now, whether you want to do it without drinking or with drinking or what have
you, my whole perspective on that is I know some people who have an over
reliance on it. I know some people who when they start drinking they just go off
the deep end, obviously not a good thing. If those are your situations, you got to
handle them yourself, but I'm not here to say, "Hey, no, you got to do this by
yourself. You can't have any booze involved." That's just something to be mindful
of.
That's the broad thing about sober, alcohol, day, night. Most times in the day,
people are not drinking. Most times at night, people are drinking. There are a few
distinctions. Obviously, if it's a park party, a bar crawl, day time parties, people
are going to be drinking. There's no day time rules or day games, just people
partying. If you ever go to a pool party in Vegas, trust me, it does not feel like
gaming a girl when she's walking down the streets at noon in New York City. Yes,
that's a big distinction.
Another one is people are outdoors at night, like if they're walking from venue to
venue. If they are drinking then you'll probably notice that. It's a lot easier to
approach them, but don't be that guy who is like creepily stalking up to a woman
late at night.
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Let's get a little bit more into sober versus alcoholized. One way that I like to think
about this is if you play the guitar, you know anything about playing guitar, there's
this thing called distortion. Basically rock bands like to play with distortion. When
you play with distortion and you solo, you can have ... You can be much sloppier
on the solo, because distortion hides the effects of your sloppiness. It all kind of
blends together with the distorted output of the amp.
When there's alcohol involved, the good news is that people are a lot more
forgiving. It sort of distorts what people feel and think. It removes some barriers,
so it's more like playing a distorted amplifier versus through a clean acoustic,
where you have to get your words a little bit more right.
In a woman's mindset, there's another big difference. When she's drinking, her
whole perspective is, "Hey, I'm going out to socialize. I'm going out to meet guys
probably. I'm going out to be around people." When she is not drinking and it's
the daytime where she's walking down the street, for example, she's probably out
for another reason, or maybe she's a service industry worker at a restaurant at
night and she's not drinking. The point is that when people are not drinking, their
mindset is probably very different than when they are drinking. When they are
drinking, they're probably much more receptive to being social and chatting other
people up.
There are differences with social boundaries, too. When somebody's drinking, you
can get a lot closer to them. You can just push the sexual envelope usually a lot
more quickly. When they're not drinking, you can't.
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Some obvious, but apparently not so obvious caveats about this whole thing,
because I've made these mistakes, don't accuse a girl of being drunk ever. They
hate it. I've definitely said to girls before, "Wow, you seem kind of drunk right
now." It doesn't matter how drunk they are, if they're not, they'll be like, "You
asshole." If they are drunk they'll be like, "You asshole." Just don't accuse girls of
being drunk. They don't like that at all.
If a girl is too drunk ... This has definitely happened to me, too, where I'm like,
"Wow, this girls like so good to go. She wants to leave the venue," and then we
get out to the taxi and she falls asleep or something. No roofies. Obviously, do not
use date rape drugs. I just feel like I am obligated to say that. I'm sure there's
somebody out there who is like, "What's that all about?" Don't do that shit.
The point is though, if a girl is too drunk, don't take advantage of her. Don't be
that dickhead either, because it's not going to be super enjoyable for you I would
guess, unless you're a nut or a lunatic, in which case refund our shit and don't
watch anymore. But if you're not another lunatic, I'm guessing that it wouldn't be
very enjoyable for you to take advantage of some drunk girl. Just don't do it.
With that little chit chat here, let's jump into different situations, and we're
actually going to start with daytime, just kind of talking about the logistics of
meeting a girl in the daytime, or in a venue where she's not really super social,
and that is all about the quick number.
The quick number, this is one of my favorites. It works great in New York. It works
great basically anywhere that you can have a conversation with her. The quick
number, this works great in situations where you're either nervous, where she's
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moving fast, where you guys just don't have a lot of time to socialize or it would
be awkward to do so. Certainly during the daytime this can work, but, also, at
night when you're leaving a bar or whatever.
Let me tell you what the steps are. You get in, you say hello, whatever your
conversation starter is, anything that we came up in a previous week. Then you
throw out a little bit of banter, just like we discussed last week, generally talking
about yourself or herself, how many things you have in common. You go into a
little bit more depth about yourself, actually being honest about certain things.
"Oh, yeah, I live in this neck of the woods. I do this."
We talked about getting to the truth of who you are. You ask her a question or
two about herself. You go personal with her. That’s about it. Give her a quick
complement. Nothing too crazy, nothing too over the top, but just a quick
statement of, "Hey, you're really cool," or, "Wow. I got to be honest with you.
You're really pretty and I'd love to get to know you more," or, "Wow. I didn't
expect such a pretty girl to be so cool." Any of those things can work just great.
Then you just push for the number. Pull out your phone, "Hey, let's get some
coffee sometime," and it's just that easy. If she's giving you a little bit of guff, if
she's like no, just pull out your phone if you need to. Literally pull it out of your
pocket. Be like, "No, don't worry about it. Look, it's all good. I'll only call you five
times a day, maybe seven." Joke about it, and then get out of there.
What we've found in doing a lot of approaches is that maybe one in ten girls will
be down to do what's called an insta-‐date. If you've followed the pickup
community for a while, you know that some guys like to use insta-‐dates. I
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personally don't. I find insta-‐dates aren't an efficient way to spend my time when
I'm trying to go chat up a bunch of girls, and insta-‐date is basically like you met a
girl during the day, and then you immediately take her to get coffee or something.
It can be fun and romantic.
If you want to do that, I'm certainly not going to discourage you from doing that.
Anything that you find in this program that's going to help you get to that point
where you can say, "Hey, listen. I don't know what you got going on for the next
hour or two, but do you want to grab a coffee somewhere?"
Certainly if you're a tourist, or if you're just traveling through major cities, that
can be a great way to spend your time and meet new girls, because you're not
going to have a lot of opportunity to date. But if you're settled, and you're looking
for a lot of girls to date, I'd avoid the instadate. It's just not an efficient way to go
about it.
When you're doing this, you want to be super assertive. It's all about, she's like,
"Wow. I'm taken aback by how assertive this guy is." That's a huge thing. If you
tremble, or you're not super assertive about it, she's going to feel that, and your
nervousness is going to transfer unto her. It's awkward situation for her to begin
with. Most girls are not used to be stopped day in, day out on the street. They're
used to be hooted and hollered at. They're used to guys being jerks, but they're
not used to guys actually expressing a genuine interest, and trying to be fun, and
trying to be playful in the way that you and I have been discussing here in this
course.
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This is going to throw them for a loop, and they're used to turning guys down.
That's the thing. They’re used to guys being jerks and whatever, like cat calling, so
you got to overcome that resistance. It's fine. It's just something you've got to
remember to manage in your head, and the way you're going to manage it is by
being assertive.
With daytime, I want you to remember, it's not efficiently organized around
building long connections, so efficiency wins. Get in, get the number, and get out.
That's a huge rule about daytime stuff when you’re doing this quick number. Yes.
That's about it.
Let's jump into talking about how to pick up girls on the street. When you're
meeting a girl on the street, it's not that hard. You just have to be super assertive
about it. That's the thing. Again, I'll just speak from New York as an example.
You're getting stopped every day by like Planned Parenthood or Green Peace or
who the hell knows to ask you to sign something, so you're going to be grouped in
that category of people certainly if you're in the city, and generally no matter
where you are. You have to just be aware of that, and that's what's going on in
her mind.
Your mindset, it's really simple. It's like, wow, bam, I see a girl. I want to get to
know her. I want her number. Let's make it happen. That's it. It's this killer instinct
of I want to make this happen. That's it.
Your body language on the street, completely neutral. You're not overly gaming
her. You're not like into her. You're not like, "Let me get close to you." It's not like
that. It's going to creep her out. You want to keep your hips generally pointed
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away from her, in fact, and then as she starts to open up to you, you can start to
give her your hips. You want to generally lean back as you're talking to her. You'll
see some demonstrations of this in the mission in the field videos, where we're
walking down the street, and we'll plant our hips, and we'll look back, and we'll be
talking to her, and then slowly turn around and lean back in that direction
towards her.
What to say, exactly what I've told you about in the quick number thing. That is by
far the easiest way I know to go. Just get your opener out there. Say hello. You
can just stop her, be like, "Hey, excuse me. Hey, I need to talk to you for a
second." You just want to grab her attention. I always like to start with a “hey”.
It's not the nicest thing. It's not like, "Hey, my sweet love." That would be a little
awkward. You just want to say, "Hey." Get her attention. Get her looking at you.
Do not start talking until you have all of her attention. That's what's really critical.
If you want to go a little bit further, and she's got some discernable trait, you
could be like, "Hey, Red Sox hat." I don't like to do stuff like, "Hey, pretty dress,"
or like, "Hey, knee high boots." Anything that a guy would say to a prostitute or
whatever, or anything that's obviously hitting on her, I don't like to do that.
Anything that sounds like you're talking to your kid sister, that works. "Hey, kitten
mittens," or, "Hey, Red Sox hat," those are things that you'd say to your little
sister, so those work. But, "Hey, girl with the pretty dress." She's like, bam, "This
guy's hitting on me." That's fine. It's okay if she knows you're hitting on her, but
that's just kind of cheese ball, so stay away from that stuff.
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You can do a couple things. You can just go direct with a compliment like, "Hey, I
saw you walking down the street. I had to get to know you. What's your name?"
You can do that. The other one that works really well is the bait and switch, where
basically you say like, "Hey, I need to know where such and such is around here,
and do you know where that is?" It's really helpful if you actually have your
phone, and you're kind of like ... I've done this plenty of times, where you're
looking on your phone and you're looking around, so she sees that. You're like,
"Yeah. Where is this thing?"
You can have some plausible deniability later. On the first date you could be like,
"Look, I've got to honest with you. I saw you from five hundred yards away, and I
was like, shit, I have to meet this woman, so I whipped out my phone and I came
up with this story." Don’t tell her right there.
What you can do is once you've been talking to her a little bit, you can say, "Hey,
listen, I got to tell you," so you go from just asking this question, something a little
bit more personal, like, "Do you live in this neighborhood?" Throw out a little
thing about yourself. "Oh, my God, we're both New Yorkers. We have so much in
common. Do you like thing number two?" Now you're going back into this hole do
you like little thing, as we discussed in week three. Now you're making your laugh
and you can say, "Hey, listen, actually you're really fun. I'd love to get to know you
sometime. I'm running right now obviously, but let me get your number." That's
the easiest way I know of on the street. It's super fun.
The one other thing that I've found on the street that can work is if you ... This is
very specific, but I was just talking to one of our coaches, Adam, about this. There
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is a neighborhood in Manhattan, where all the actresses and models go to
castings. Casting is where they basically show up, and there's fifty models, and the
casting directors meeting all of them in person, and seeing how she likes them.
The way that these castings ... The girl will go in and out real quickly, and usually
when she's there, she'll have this book. It's like her portfolio.
What we've noticed is if you walk around the neighborhood, there's a lot of girls
during the daytime, in the afternoon, in the morning, during the week, who are
walking around with their portfolios. You might see them in a Starbucks in line.
You might see them at a Dunkin Donuts or whatever, and it's really easy to start
talking and be like, "Hey, how did the casting go?" That's an example of a specific
opening for a scenario. It's not quite the street, but it is daytime. That’s a specific
example of a way that you could stop somebody.
You could even do that while you're walking down the street. If you look down,
you see a girl with a portfolio in her bag ... I've actually done this to a girl in the
park. I was walking by, and she was just sitting down with her portfolio in her bag,
and I said, "Hey, how did the casting go?" That's an example of how you can use a
little bit of social intelligence to understand what the girl's all about, what's going
on in her world, and just assume a rapport with her. Get in the conversation, start
it going. We talked about assumed rapport before, so I'm not going dwell on it.
That's an easy way to make a street approach if she's walking down the street,
what have you.
That is the street approach. We will move on to the next, which is the bookstore.
The Barnes and Noble in the Union Square here in New York, it's funny. It became
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such a hot spot for gaming girls that I actually know some guys who got banned
from there. The Barnes and Noble people know. They're like all these pickup
artists keep coming in and talking to girls here. They've really got their eyes on
that. You can't run boot camps down there anymore, but whatever. Some guys
still really like going to bookstores, talking to girls. We'll see what the Kindle and
the Nook do to bookstore sales, but, hey, there's some brainy girls hanging out in
bookstores, a great place to meet girls.
This would work like movie stores, too, like a Sam Goody, if that's still around, or
Tower Records, Virgin, anywhere where people are browsing to shop for media.
Your mindset when you go in there is, "Hey, I'm just looking for a book. I'm just
hanging out," and when you see the girl it's like, bam, pretty girl. I need to make
this happen right now. You don't want to be that creepy guy who is stalking her
out of the corner of your eye or anything like that. Your body language in the
bookstore should be neutral and relaxed. Just make it easy.
Now, what to say, usually I like to do something situational with respect to the
books. If it's a section that you really know, like if you really like religion books, or
if you really like entrepreneurship books, or you really like whatever, then by all
means just start talking. "Have you read this one," or, "Have you read that book,"
and just start a little conversation with her. You probably have enough
intelligence that you don't need me to tell you that, but it is a great way to start a
conversation.
Then you can just go on and start talking what you like about it, and really get
enthused. Girls who are in bookstores, they are probably deeper thinkers than
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girls who don't go to bookstores, so if you show some enthusiasm about talking
about the book, they'll be like, "Wow. This guy has a passion for this, and I find
this really engaging," and you throw it back at her, "So, tell me what kind of books
do you like," and talk to her about it, or, "What are you looking for? What about
this topic matter is so interesting to you." Those are the sort of questions that you
can really bring out of her, get to know her. After a few minutes of conversation, I
would say start to head out.
My friend, Steven Nash, he's got a great conversation starter for bookstores when
you don't know the section very well, and I always like this one. Basically
whatever section it is, whether it's fiction, or poetry, or what have you, you say
something like, "I've never been a big fan of fiction, but something keeps pulling
me back to this section, like I'm looking for that book that's going to unlock my
interest in fiction.
I know I want to learn about it at some point." Just let it linger, and she'll either
respond, she'll say, "Interesting, so ...," and she'll pick up the bait, and then you
guys are off to a little conversation, and now it's all about her. It's all about
making her the expert in that subject matter. That's the bookstore. If you like
bookstores, great brainy girls there. Go out and make it happen.
The grocery store. This is a great place to meet women, because every woman
has to go to a grocery store. Every woman is shopping, and it's so funny. One of
my girlfriends, who we dated for two years, and she told me specifically, "Before
you came into my life, I'd go to Fairway, and every time I was there, I was just
really hoping that some great guy would come up and talk to me." It still breaks
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my heart to think of her ... We broke up out of some very fundamental
differences, and I still love her to death, and it just breaks my heart to think that
she is probably back at that grocery store hoping that some other man is going to
go talk to her.
I got to tell you what. This girl is a drop dead gorgeous model, perfect ten in every
way. I just have to make this clear to you. Girls at grocery stores, not all of them,
but a lot of girls who are there shopping by themselves, they would love to be
approached by an awesome guy, and a lot of girls go to grocery stores thinking,
"This would be such a great place to meet a guy," because they've seen it on
every damn Adam Sandler movie, or whatever romantic comedy they've ever
watched. This guy starts talking to a girl in a grocery store, so they've got this
image in their head of that would be a good place to meet a guy.
Put your balls on the line, not your melons. Your attitude in a grocery store, let's
talk about that. I'm making some sort of food. Whether you're a good cook or not,
the whole attitude is to have fun with cooking. You don't have to be super
enthusiastic about it, but you have to be super enthusiastic about food. That's the
key point. You have to love food. You have to love talking about food, and come
on, who doesn't love food?
Again, you're in and out. You want to make it happen, but you definitely want to
just have some fun with her. Your body language, you're neutral. You're possibly
in a hurry, but at the same time, you're not being too blah, blah, blah, blah. You’re
giving her time to talk, and you're really going to make her feel like the star in the
grocery store.
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Different products. For example, if you happen to near a girl who is buying
mangoes … Fruit is obvious. "Hey, do you know how to tell if an avocado is ripe,"
or what have you, and at that point you could start to ask, "Cool. How did you
learn that? Is that something they teach in school," and kind of go from there.
"You assume like you must be a semi-‐good chef." At this point, you're going to
start getting feelers about whether she's feeling it or not.
Here's the cool thing about the grocery store. Again, we've talked a little bit about
this already, but let's say you walk up to a girl, and all your body language is
rocking. You've got your tonality down. You got good posture. You're making
good eye contact. You're smiling a little bit, and your vibe is there. If you make
some eye contact with a girl, and you're like, "Hey, I need some help here. Can
you tell me what is a ripe avocado?"
If she's chitty chatty, and she's having fun with you, and she's enjoying talking to
you, and she thinks you're semi-‐attractive, then she's going to be very responsive,
and at this point you can just start asking her questions, sharing a little bit about
yourself once you get a minute or two in.
That's the great thing about this. If she's not, she's just going to quickly glance you
over. "Oh, yeah, this that." She'll be all business. You can tell pretty quickly. Just
use some social intelligence. Is this girl being a little more friendly than she needs
to be, or is she being just friendly enough? The best thing about this is if you really
need avocados and she wasn't super friendly, you still got some information that
you needed, and it wasn't about hitting on her. That's that. You can do that.
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You can, also, say ... And I know Nick likes to use this one. Be like, "Hey, I'm
cooking for a friend. What type of noodles do you prefer with this sort of stuff?"
You specifically said you. "What type of noodles do you prefer?" "What type of
potato chips or Tostitos do you prefer when you're eating them with guacamole?"
That puts it right on her. She'll say, "Well, I prefer ...," and you can at that point
grab that one and say, "Cool."
I got to say I'm a fan of this one. If it were me, just for example, if it was with
potato chips, I'd say, "Well, I got to tell you, my favorite by far are Tostitos Chili
Lime. If you put a bag of that in front of me, I will eat every single one.” “I haven't
had these though. Are they that addictive?" I'm going to start going to that, but
that's true. Tostitos lime chips to me are like if you really like this program, I mean
really, really like it, send me some Tostitos lime chips, because I will go through
them like that. They're so good.
Obviously, you can't go wrong with a direct opener. If nothing else is coming to
you, you can just walk by and say, "Hey, listen, I got to tell you, you are really
pretty, and I just noticed you from across the aisle, and I had to come over and
say hello. What's your name?" If she's receptive at all, and she's enjoying your
company, then, bam, you're in. You're good. That's it.
Let's move on, and let's talk about the mall. Let's do that one. The mall, that's just
shopping. Girls generally don't love that a guy is going shopping just to hit on girls.
They actually like it when a guy is going shopping to go shopping. I will tell you
this, and this sucks as a fact, but it's just true. I always get better responses from
girls when I'm out shopping if I'm already carrying a shopping back, and I get the
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best responses if I'm carrying something from Ralph Lauren. It just seems to go
that way. Girls love Ralph Lauren, and so if I'm carrying a damn Ralph Lauren bag,
it just sends off a subtle little indicator like, "This guy shops at Ralph Lauren."
Just so you know, and in fairness, if you want to go get a damn Ralph Lauren bag
and walk around with it, that's fine. I'm into girls who like that sort of stuff. If you
like girls who are into Hot Topic or whatever, then get a bag from that store. I
promise you, you will increase the number of girls ... Because they're just looking
at your body and little cues about you. You know this already. If you're carrying a
bag from a store that they like, then they're just like, "Oh, this guy is a little bit
more like me." The mall, that's a great thing that's helpful there.
Your mindset is usually, it's either I'm looking for something specific, like I really
need to find X, or I'm just browsing around wasting time, however you want to
play it when you go into the mall. When you're actually talking to the girl, it can
be either way. You can be in and out. Let's make this happen. You could say, "Hey,
listen, I've got a fun day. I'm just browsing around, hanging out, and I got some
time to spend. I want to make a new friend right now."
Your body language, it could be neutral. It could be a little bit more engaged. It's
not going to be over the top obviously. It's daytime. There's no alcohol involved.
There's a few things that can just be super helpful in the mall in terms of opening.
One of them is just like if there's a girl nearby, and it's something you're trying on,
just be like, "Hey, I need a quick female opinion on this. What do you think of
these jeans?" I personally don't love that one. I know a lot of guys who do,
including some guys I work with, so that's why I'm including it here. I don't
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personally love that one, because I don't feel like ... If she doesn't like the jeans,
then I'm screwed, especially if I like the jeans, and I don't find that to be the best
one, but, like I said, Nick really likes that one during the day. He thinks that one
works great. If you really want, you can pull her into your shopping.
One thing that I know that does work, and I've done this before, is what she
thinks of sunglasses and what she thinks of cologne. Those two things right there
are great things to get girls involved with. I will tell you this, too, they're get first
or second dates. If you're like, "Hey, I need to go buy some sunglasses. I want you
to come with me." That is a great first date. Going to buy some cologne is a great
part of a second date. That's one thing.
The other thing that I really like to do in the mall, or again in big cities you just get
big shopping areas, like streets. I'll just stop a girl and be like, "Hey, excuse me. Do
you know where Ralph Lauren is? Where Gucci is?" I'll usually pick a luxury brand
name, and then I'll involve them in the conversation for a little bit. "Oh, wait, so
79th and Madison. We're on ... Do you know this neighborhood pretty well?" I'll
start to get into it.
Then I'll notice something that they're wearing. This is where you go from here. I'll
notice something they're wearing, and I'll be like, "Looks like you've been
shopping somewhere pretty nice yourself." Usually that's just a little compliment,
and I'll transition into, "Do you live in the neighborhood, or are you just in visiting
from out of the city," and then, bam, back into the whole thing of like, "Oh, my
God, we have so much in common," and then start to get to know each other a
little bit more.
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Then, again, you can never go wrong with direct. The same thing that we always
discussed, "Hey, excuse me. I just had stop and let you know I think you're really
attractive. I want to get to know you." That can work in the mall, too.
There's a couple specific ways that you can stop girls in the mall. Go out, use
them. They will definitely work. I promise you that. This is the coffee shop. Every
guy sees girls that he wants to meet in coffee shops. Coffee shops are obviously
very popular these days. Girls hang out in coffee shops, and meeting girls in coffee
shops is a great way to do it. There's a couple ways that I've done it in the past,
that I know to do it. One of them ...
Let's talk about the mindset first. Your mindset is either going to be oriented
around like, "Hey, I'm here to get some coffee, and relax, and read, and just chill
out," or your mindset is going to be, "I need some coffee. Let's make this
happen." Depending on which one of those you have, my honest feeling is go with
whatever you got. If you're just in and out to get some coffee, then get some
coffee and get out of there. If you're there to hang out, or relax, to read your iPad,
or whatever you got, do that, and play the game accordingly. Body language is
generally going to be pretty safe. You’re not going to be wildly gesticulating, super
crazy, all that.
Now, what do you say? One of the easiest ways to do it, and you're not always
going to get this shot, but if you do get it, you got to take it, is near the toppings
bar, you can just be like, "Yeah, can I have some cinnamon? I definitely want
some sugar," and just try to get some eye contact with her. Be like, "You have to
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put cinnamon in your coffee," and then you can just start a conversation from
there. A little bit of back and forth. That's usually the opener that I like to use.
Then you can something like, "Yeah, obviously, I've always got to get this at this
time of the day," or, "Do you always drink coffee at this time of the day," or you
can say ... What's the other thing that I always say? "Yeah, around 4:00 if I don't
have a coffee I will be dead asleep right now." A little bit of that, and just see how
receptive she is at that point.
If you're in line with a girl, if you're nearby her or close, you can just be like,
"Wow. What is that thing? Like a vanilla mochachino frappe thing? Have you ever
had that?" Then you guys can talk about all the different flavors, et cetera, et
cetera, but just get some advice from her. It's the same way you you're going to
do it in the grocery store, with respect to, "Are these avocados fresh?" You're just
trying to get some advice from her. You can talk about what you normally get. See
if you guys have something in common. See if she's in the neighborhood. Go from
there.
One of my favorites from the coffee shop actually, this is when I was back in Ann
Arbor is if I saw a girl I was kind of making some eye contact with, or even if I
didn't totally have eye contact with her, I would walk up to her and be like, "Hey, I
got to be honest. You're really distracting me," and have a wry smile and say,
"You're really distracting me." If she gets it, she'll be like, "Oh," and she'll laugh,
and then you kind of be like, "Hey, so what's your name? What brings you out
here today? Did you have the day off work?"
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If she doesn't get it, and she's like, "Why am I distracting you?" Be like, "I'm sitting
over there. I'm trying to do work, and I just can't help but find my gaze wandering
in your direction. What's your name?" Those are the two ways that you're going
to start that conversation. If you're friendly about it, if you're having fun with it,
girls will be very responsive to it. They’ll love it. That's the coffee shop.
Let's move on and talk about nighttime. Moving on to the nighttime here. This is
where it's really fun, if you ask me. This is where I like to meet girls is when
there's a little bit of alcohol involved, when people are out, when people are
being social. Let's talk about how you're going to do it in a bar situation. Well,
more broadly than the bar. Just in social places where everybody's hanging out
and having fun.
The first thing you want to do is obviously attempt to establish some value. We've
attempted to explain this in various ways in all of our programs. Attempting to
establish value is making friends with connectors, going out and just being
friendly with everybody. Talking to some other people in the room first.
This is really my technique is finding the people who are open. I want to find the
people who are receptive to having conversations, and those are the people who I
want to initiate my conversations with, because they're going to be giving me
great responses. From far away or from wherever she's sitting, a girl can't really
discern why are these people laughing so much? Is it because this guy is the
funniest guy in the world, or is it because they were just really open to begin
with? That's not what she's going to see. She's just going to see that I'm talking to
some people who I know, that I'm having fun and that's that.
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Usually what I like to do is as soon as I get eye contact from a girl who is really
pretty, I'll try to wave at her, or force a little interaction. Usually it will be like ...
And I got this from a gambler, where I will wave at her, and I'll do one of those,
and if she's ... I'll be like, "Do I know you," or, "Hi, do we know each other?" I'll
give her one of those looks, and that's a great way to lock her into you, where it's
not just like, "Hey." You can do some of the nonverbal openers that we discussed
in week two as well. The point is once you get that eye contact, you want to do
something that's going to grab her and make her focus on you.
You're going to go over. You're going to say something fun, something nice,
something calibrated. We've talked about calibrating your openers properly.
We're going to give you some more of them very shortly here. Pace the
conversation on her vibe. You might be able to escalate it really quickly, and you
might be able to hold back, hang out. I personally like to typically hold back and
hang out, but some guys like to move pretty quick. You're going to go from there.
Let's talk about the bar specifically. My mindset when I'm at the bar. I'm out with
my friends. I'm having a great time, and I'm looking to meet other people who are
having fun. This is not once of, "Yo, I want to go out and hit on chicks," but when I
see a girl who I'm into, then I'm like, "Wow, I want to talk to her."
The funny thing is for as long as I've been doing this, I still get nervous at times,
and there are times I still go out and I'm like, "I'm not having fun with friends, and
I'm here to hit on girls." That's when my mind starts working against me, and the
thing that gets you over that is when you just remove the stakes of like, "Geez, if I
hit on her and she rejects me, this is the worst thing ever." You just got to start
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rolling with it and having fun. Do a bombing opener, or do some shots with your
buddy, whatever. If you start getting into the mindset and getting stuck like I do
from time to time, then you just want to get out of that mindset and do what you
need to do to get out of it.
Body language, you can be a little bit more aggressive here. You want to be a lot
closer to her. You want to obviously approach at that forty-‐five degree angle. You
probably heard that before. If you haven't, we've got some demonstrations of it in
mission in the field stuff. Basically you're going to walk up, you're going to
approach at that forty-‐five degree angle. Bring yourself in as she's becoming more
receptive to you.
If you already feel like you've got her attraction, if she's being responsive to you
and she's giving you good feedback, then you can get face to face with her very
quickly. You're really going to have to calibrate this based on what she's giving
you, and that's just not something that I can talk about. It's something you got to
feel out. You've got to see how to do it, or you've got to come and get coached to
do it yourself.
In terms of what you're going to say. Anything that I gave you in the supplemental
openers, there's so much in there that you can look at and use as an example, so
I'm not going to jump into that right now. There's so many great ideas. You could
go situational. You could go direct, anything. Go look in the supplemental openers
part of this course, and find what you want to use from those.
That is the bar. Have fun with it. Very close to the bar is a nightclub. The nightclub
is basically like a bar, but it's even higher energy. You're going to probably be a
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little higher energy. She's probably going to be a little higher energy. You’re going
to be a little bit more on the aggressive side. Because it's so loud, you want to
definitely demonstrate your confidence.
One thing that I do know is I know a lot of girls, including quite a few girls who I've
dated, who are like, "Man, guys are always coming and hitting on me in the
nightclub." I just had a conversation today with my buddy, David Tian, about this,
and my whole vibe in the nightclub is I'm going to have fun. I'm going to be
aggressive when it's time to be aggressive.
When I'm actually starting a conversation, it's probably not going to be with a girl.
It's going to be with people who are on the periphery of the girl. I want to get to
know people who are around her, her friends. If I've got to go direct, then I'm just
going to grab her, like pull her in and say, "Hey, come here." Those are the two
kind of distinctions.
Let's talk about that first one. Just to be clear, you're going to position yourself
nearby. You’re going to get some proximity. You're going to start talking to people
with her, around her, nearby her, and then you're going to start making eye
contact with her. Because you're being so social with everybody, you're going to
naturally pull her into the conversation, so that's been the one way that I do it.
The other way ... Again, this is the very direct way ... Is you get a little bit of eye
contact, and as you guys are standing up, walking by each other or whatever,
you're just going to go super aggressive. Walk up to her. Usually I'll grab her right
on the hand, and just pull her right into me, like, "Hey, what's your name?" To the
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point where it'd be like I'm not yanking her in, but I'm grabbing her and she's
feeling like, "Wow, this guy is taking control of the situation."
It's really going to depend on the girl. I did that just a few weeks ago to great
effect. The girl was incredibly responsive to it. I've done it before, and had a girl
say, "Hey, what are you doing? Just a little too much." If you get that response,
you can usually just keep plowing right through it. You can say, "What are you
talking about? What's your name," and you just keep going through the things
that you're going to share with her.
Yes. Those are the two real great approaches for nightclubs. Two little nuances
there is, A, you want to keep your sentences short and discernable. It's loud in
there. The venue is moving. You got to keep your sentences short. You can't run
on. It's just a quick back and forth, and it's a lot about the eye contact and the
vibe she's getting from you. If you're going to go direct, it's the same as we've
always talked about. Just go direct. Go hard. Make her feel it. Those are
nightclubs and bars. Let's pause for a second, and we'll move on to talk about all
female groups next.
With all female groups, there's some similarities with single girls and there's some
differences with single girls. Let's talk about the similarities first. The mindset
when people are sober versus inebriated, those are going to stay the same. Body
language is going to generally remain the same, and the verbal rules are all going
to apply.
The differences in single is when you're approaching in an alcoholized
environment, when people are passing around drinks, you're going to be able to
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be much more a part of the group much more quickly. They’re looking for guys
who are looking for fun, having a good time. There's already a group vibe going on
if there is basically three or more girls and they're really enjoying themselves.
If they're sitting, you want to sit before you say anything. Just join the group. If
they're standing, you can join their circle. You don't want to be that guy who is
leaning in from outside of it, unless ... Now there's one caveat there. Unless your
group and their group have proximity to each other. This is definitely a situation
where you can lean in. I might be here. I'm talking with some buddies. I lean in
across my shoulder. I say something to their group. I'm like, "Hey, guys, blah, blah,
blah." Go back to my group. Come back in, but I'm quickly going to join their
whole group. I'm not going to just kind of linger half-‐assedly. I make that
introduction. Come back away. Go back in, and then I'm fully into that group.
The critical part about all female groups is you want to direct attention to all the
group members when you're talking, and this is one thing that we see in our drills
in our coaching programs is guys who are nervous, they have a hard time keeping
eye contact with everybody in the group. That's something you really have to be
conscious to work on. I'm talking to you, and I'm talking to you, and I'm talking to
you. If you don't keep eye contact with everybody in the group, you're going to
start to lose them, and one person is going to feel kind of left out. Keep equal eye
contact. The girl who you are interested in, coincidentally, if your eyes are all over
her, then she's going to feel that, too, and she's going to be, "This guys likes me."
You want to compliment the girls typically, or flirt with them, or whatever. You
want to make them feel good. You can say something like, "Ah, she looks so
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sweet. I love her to death." The common one in the pickup community, which is
so good is like, "Oh, my God, I can't believe you guys roll with this girl. Does she
always say stuff like that?" Those are two great ways to flirt and tease. We've
obviously talked about flirts and teases in a previous section and in all of our
supplemental materials, so you can look at that stuff.
If you're getting somebody who is giving you a cold response, Nick likes to do this
one. If somebody is giving him a really cold response, he'll be like, "You look like
you absolutely hate me right now," and he's got a big smile on his face, and he's
really enjoying it. It's really hard for a girl to be like, "Yeah, you're an asshole."
She'll usually warm up with that one, but generally, if you're having a good
conversation with all the girls and you're making good eye contact with all of
them, then they'll generally be friendly.
Let's move on and talk about male female mixed groups. There are some
differences and similarities, of course. The similarities with all female groups are
you want to approach as if you were a part of the group. You don't want to be
kind of lingering on the outside for too long. Same sober, inebriated mindset,
body language, verbal rules.
The difference is that you got to give a majority of attention to ... First of all, you
want to give attention to the whole group, but you really want to give a lot of
attention to the guy. You want to make him feel very important in the group. This
is what’s going to disarm him and take his ego out of the equation, because
there's a guy coming into his group, or there's a guy coming into multiple guy's
groups. You want to really show the guy, "Hey, listen. I respect you. I'm not just
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coming in to pluck the hens from your hen house and walk off." You want to make
a connection with him, before you really start to work on any of the girls there.
Plus, if he knows them very well, then he's going to be a veto vote if it comes
down to it and he doesn't like you.
One exception with this is if you're in the group for more than thirty seconds, and
you notice that the girls are starting to box the guy out a little bit, or that they are
not checking back with him. You're giving your attention to the guy. The girls are
really giving their attention to you, and you're starting to give your attention
equally, and then you start to give a little bit more to the guy.
Then the girls will start to give their attention more to you, and they are not
focusing on him anymore. If that's the case, then you can start to just talk to them
specifically. Usually what that means is that this guy is not somebody who they
actually respect, not somebody who they value, and they're finding you to be
more interesting. Just be aware of that nuance. You don't have to give the guy
that much credit if the girls are not watching his responses to you. If they're just
paying attention to you, then the ball is in your court. You’re the alpha male of
that group.
In terms of what to say, I like to use assumed rapport stuff. We've covered that in
previous sections. In situations where there's alcohol involved, you can just walk
up, "You guys look like you're having a great time. I got to come sit. I had to come
say hi. What's up?" I've used that so many times, so many different ways. That's
how I roll with that one.
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Let's talk about one more different scenario. I like to meet a lot of people, and
that's when it's a semi-‐warm introduction. This is when maybe somebody's
introducing somebody to you, or maybe it's a cold approach in a sense of
nobody's making the introduction, but it's through friends and through
connections. Maybe it's a party. You all know the same people, but you haven't
met her specifically yet.
The two distinctions that I like to make are when it's your place, versus when it's a
close friend's place. If it's your place, and I like to throw parties at my place, or
places where I'm the boss, whether I'm the DJ or I'm the host or the promoter or
whatever. When I meet a girl and when I meet a group, I'm going to be friendly to
all of them, all of them, very warm and accommodating. Like, "Hi. How are you?
What’s your name? Come here."
As soon as I've made those introductions, I'm going to definitely semi-‐ignore the
girl who I'm interested in. This has been a consistent pattern in my life and
meeting girls. The one girl I'm really interested in, I'm just going to semi-‐ignore
her. I'll talk to other people. I'll hang out with other people. Usually I know a lot of
people there. I'll be giving a lot of attention to my close friends, but the girl who
I'm interested in, she's off in the background.
At a certain point I'm going to walk over to whatever small group she's a part of,
and I'm going to ask a question to everybody in the group. It might be like, "Hey,
what songs do you guys want to hear tonight?" It might be, "Hey, what kind of
wine do you want with dinner?" It might be anything. It might be, "Hey, what do
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you think of the trial of the governor of Illinois?" That happened today. I probably
wouldn't ask that question, but something contemporary.
I'm going to wait for everybody's answer, and I'm going to give everybody specific
eye contact, and when she answers, my eye contact will linger just a little longer
and it will narrow just a little bit. I'll be communicating something very different
with my eyes with her than with everyone else.
This is something that we talked about in the previous week in terms of that eye
contact and that energy, and the emotion that you're putting into the interaction.
She's going to feel that, and what you've done is you've ignored her for a little
while, and then you went over to their group, and you very subtly conveyed,
"Hey, I'm kind of interested in you."
Now she's intrigued. Now she's like, "Is this guy interested in me or not?" She may
come over to you at that point. If she doesn't, then you can go back and kind of
repeat that, and this time you're going to get a little bit more involved in the
group, and you're going to have a little bit more of an interaction with her
specifically, and then she's going to have a pretty good idea at that point, and
then she may isolate with you.
If she doesn't the second time, then you can basically call her over. You can say,
"Hey, guys, I need some help with something over here. Can I have ...," and then
you point to the girl who you're interested in. "Can you come help me with this?"
That's how you're going to get her involved. It could be something as simple as,
"Hey, can you come help me set the placemats?"
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The more that you can get her involved in something you're doing, if you're
cooking or DJing. Probably one or two of you who ever watch this will be DJs, but
the more that you can get her involved with something that you do, the better,
because then you guys are creating the situation together. That's been my
approach in an environment where I'm the owner of the place or the manager or
in charge of stuff.
With close friends, what I typically like to do, when she's in a conversation with
friends, I'll try to join that conversation, and I won't be specifically interested in
talking to her. I'm really interested in the topic of conversation, and I'm interested
in having a conversation with a stakeholder, the main involved. If it's her, then I
could talk with her, but if it's somebody else, I'm just going to talk with them.
To isolate on her, I'm going to do one of two things. I'm either going to grab onto
to something that she says and add to the conversation. I'm like, "Oh, that's
interesting. Why do you think that," or, "Where did that come from," or
something that builds on something she said, or if she's not being an active
participant in the conversation, I'm going to bring her in. I'm going to say, "What
do you think of this? You've been kind of quiet over there this whole time. Speak
up. What's on your mind, girl." Those two things.
Let me give you a great example. Not long ago I was at a party, and I was talking
with this guy who was a baseball fan. I'm like, "Yankees or Mets?" He's like, "Ah,
dude, Mets all the way." I went around, I'm like, "How about you? Yankees,
Mets." I'm doing this ... There was like three or four people in the group, and she
was a Yankees fan, so with the Yankees fan I'm like, "Yeah, I'm totally a Yankees
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fan." Gave her a little lingering eye contact, like that's the way to roll. Go back to
the Mets guy, who is clearly the most passionate about them. I'm like, "Dude,
what is it with the Mets? I don't get it." I start talking with him about some ads
I've seen around town that make fun of the Mets.
He's getting really animated. I'm like, "Yeah. I don't get it. I haven't been out to a
Mets game yet. I hear their stadium's really nice." Really just having a big
interaction between him and I, and then eventually I bring the girl in, too. I'm like,
"Hey, have you been out to their stadium? He keeps talking about it. It sounds
really fun." She's like, "No, I haven't been out there." I'm like, "Barbeque in the
stadium. That sounds amazing. Where are you from?" Turns out she was from
Texas. I'm like, "Texas. You know what barbeque is all about." A really easy way to
bring her in, and then eventually he leaves, and now she and I have our own little
conversation going.
Those are the two great ways to meet somebody in semi-‐warm conversations,
which, again, are my favorites. I will make sure to diagram those two, so you
know what the steps are.
That brings us to the end of Say Hello. Again, a lot of the situational specific stuff
that we covered in this week, mindsets that you want to take in, situational
awareness you want to take into these environments, but I got to be honest with
you. The best learning you're going to do is taking the core of what we've given
you and going out and doing the homework that we're giving you next. If you
don't do this, I hate to say it, you're not getting the value of the course.
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That concludes it all, but, listen, man, there's been a lot of material that we've
covered in these last four weeks, a tremendous amount. If you got through all of
it in these last four weeks, then my applause to you. If you haven't, then I really
want you to go back. Every guy who commits to this course and goes through this
course, gets much better results. We have testimonials to that effect. We have so
many guys who have told us, "Hey, I got a girlfriend out of this. I became less
introverted. I got rid of my social anxiety." It's all about doing the actual
homework and doing the exercises.
If you feel like you need a push, if you feel like, "Look, I've put my best in, but my
best just wasn't good enough. There's some sort of motivation or some fire that's
burning inside of me," then the next step is to get on the phone with us. We can
either do some remote coaching just to kick your ass, but, dude, how many
approaches did you do the other night? You're like, "None." You better do more.
Either that or just come in and see us, watch how we do it, and we'll push you
into it as well. Either way. Look, man, you got to do this stuff. I hope that this has
been tremendously helpful for you. I have loved putting this material together.
It's been life changing for me. Thank you once again for participating in this, and
I'm just looking forward to hearing about your success stories. I will hopefully
hear them very soon.