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- combining talkback with chromevox? [1 Update]


http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/4862eae68acc3094
- Random and multiple crashes of YouTube app on iOS [2 Updates]
http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/8e31802b70a2f078
- Youtube TV App Randomly Crashing When Flicking Through Live
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- Accessibility Issue with YouTube App on iPhone 12 (iOS 18.4) -
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http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/714def61ad078bf7
- Youtube: Issue with commenting on videos | iPhone 12 (iOS 18.4) [1
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http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/944f736592a3fb64
- combining talkback with chromeVox [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/5f6e0f229e6dada9
- Google Book and new European Accessibility Act [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/2d62d7bebf181d12

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From: Josh Kennedy <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 05 10:17PM -0400
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a263bb0873d56

hi,

I wonder if the people at google would consider combining the talkback


screen reader with Chromevox, so we would have a screen reader that is
consistent across both platforms, and then no matter what you are
using, we
could use google docs, sheets, and slides? Because chromevox can read
style
and font changes and it can do stuff that talkBack can't, and talkback
can
do some stuff that chromeVox can't do. So why not just combine the two
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Josh

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From: Kevin <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 05 08:17PM +0100
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26333859fa43

Thank you

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From: Mujtaba Merchant <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 06 08:58AM +0530
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26378b462d02

I second this, there have been multiple crashes and not having the
Skip add=
button at the same place on each video is very disorienting.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf O=
f Eric Oyen
Sent: 06 April 2025 12:45 AM
To: Google Accessibility <[email protected]>
Subject: Random and multiple crashes of YouTube app on iOS

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Hey google dev team,

For the last month or so, I have noticed that the YouTube app crashes
rando=
mly during video playback, during reading comments and when submitting
comm=
ents, the submitted comment disappears without being posted. This
isn=E2=80=
=99t the only issue with the app, but it is a major one and even
affects ho=
w us blind users can use the app. I have submitted many (and multiple)
repo=
rts via the internal feedback mechanism without any response
whatsoever, an=
d even experienced a crash while attempting to submit a report.

Another issue inside the app, the magical, musical moving skip ad
button. T=
here is no consistent placement, which makes it very difficult to get
to (a=
nd the increase in numbers of ads during playback is becoming a major
annoy=
ance). I simply cannot justify paying out $20 a month for =E2=80=9Cad
free =
service=E2=80=9D with all this other nonsense going on. The musical
chairs =
routine with the skip ad button makes this complaint a definite
accessibili=
ty issue and with the crashes, makes the app almost unusable. Would
you ple=
ase do us all a favor and correct whatever bugs are causing this?

Thank you,

Eric Oyen

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From: Jim Bauer <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 05 02:32PM -0500
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26299490d91f

When running the iOS Youtube TV app with Voiceover, the app crashes
when I =
go to the live tab and start one-finger flicking through channels. It
won't=
happen right away--it'll take about 4 or 5, but the crashing is
consistent=
.

This started in Youtube TV version 9.11, was seemingly fixed in


version 9.1=
2 and then re-appeared in 9.13.

I've submitted 2 different cases through mainstream support via the


in-app =
"contact support" system. Agents handling my most recent ticket
claimed tha=
t teams had looked into it and could not find a specific cause, but I
doubt=
the issue is getting where it needs to go.

Are accessibility and/or dev teams aware and investigating?

Are there any end-users on this list experiencing this issue?

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Date: Apr 05 10:40PM +0530
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26255b64f0a1

Greetings,

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Issue: YouTube app on my iPhone 12, running iOS 18.4. I'm having
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Important,
and Today), I'm unable to navigate to them using VoiceOver. I've
recorded a
video demonstrating this behavior
<https://youtu.be/lX-YTyiAq-w?si=3D6iwrxMU_D6OGaSSV> , which was
initially
observed on an older iOS version but still persists on the current
version
(iOS 18.4).

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From: Mujtaba Merchant <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 05 10:17PM +0530
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a2624af8bf982

This video demonstrates a strange issue where I'm unable to comment on


some
videos in the YouTube app, despite commenting being enabled. This
issue
occurs randomly, regardless of whether I've subscribed to the channel
or
not.

YouTube: Issue with commenting on videos | iPhone 12 (iOS 18.4)


<https://youtube.com/shorts/i8oTgP3HmGU?feature=3Dshare>

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Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/5f6e0f229e6dada9
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From: Josh Kennedy <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 04 08:42PM -0400
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a2618bbbcddd2

hi,

I think if talkback and chromevox were combined, we would have a great


screen reader. That is because chromeVox has all the keyboard commands
and
can even read math and font and style changes, and talkback is good
for
everything else. What do you all think? Could talkback and chromeVox
somehow be combined? Could chromeVox work on android phones so we
could use
google docs, sheets and slides on android phones?

Josh

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From: <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 04 05:03PM -0600
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26189c142e26

This should answer your questions. I assume Google would follow these
guide=
lines.
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Dear Publishing Community,
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Please feel free to circulate broadly!
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The Accessibility task force of the W3C Publishing Community Group is
pleas=
ed to announce the third draft of the =E2=80=9CAccessibility metadata
displ=
ay guide for digital publications 2.0=E2=80=9D.=20
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This is the final draft. We anticipate organizations to create
implementati=
ons based on this final draft. We anticipate minor suggestions to be
made a=
s the implementations are developed. Please provide your valuable
feedback =
on or before April, 11, 2025.
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The drafts are available at the following URLs:
- Guidelines: https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-guide/
2.0/g=
uidelines/
- EPUB Techniques: <https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-
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display-guid=
e/2.0/techniques/onix-metadata/> https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-
meta-=
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guide. T=
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versions=
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help wi=
th the localizations/translations to review these localizations as
they bec=
ome available.
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Please file a GitHub issue <https://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y/issues/
476> w=
ith your feedback. If you are uncomfortable filing a GitHub issue,
feel fre=
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on behalf of the W3C Publishing Community Accessibility task force
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Subject: Google Book and new European Accessibility Act
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instance, it=
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https://internationalpublishers.org/the-european-accessibility-act-
for-non-=
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hi,<br />
&nbsp;<br />
I wonder if the people at google would consider combining the
talkback<br /=
>
screen reader with Chromevox, so we would have a screen reader that
is<br /=
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using, we=
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style=
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talkback =
can<br />
do some stuff that chromeVox can&#39;t do. So why not just combine the
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them?<br />
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disorienting.<br />
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Sent: 06 April 2025 12:45 AM<br />
To: Google Accessibility &lt;[email protected]&gt;<br />
Subject: Random and multiple crashes of YouTube app on iOS<br />
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Hey google dev team,<br />
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For the last month or so, I have noticed that the YouTube app crashes
rando=
mly during video playback, during reading comments and when submitting
comm=
ents, the submitted comment disappears without being posted. This
isn=E2=80=
=99t the only issue with the app, but it is a major one and even
affects ho=
w us blind users can use the app. I have submitted many (and multiple)
repo=
rts via the internal feedback mechanism without any response
whatsoever, an=
d even experienced a crash while attempting to submit a report.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Another issue inside the app, the magical, musical moving skip ad
button. T=
here is no consistent placement, which makes it very difficult to get
to (a=
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annoy=
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is consistent.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
This started in Youtube TV version 9.11, was seemingly fixed in
version 9.1=
2 and then re-appeared in 9.13.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
I&#39;ve submitted 2 different cases through mainstream support via
the in-=
app &quot;contact support&quot; system. Agents handling my most recent
tick=
et claimed that teams had looked into it and could not find a specific
caus=
e, but I doubt the issue is getting where it needs to go.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Are accessibility and/or dev teams aware and investigating?<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Are there any end-users on this list experiencing this issue?<br />

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Mujtaba Merchant &lt;[email protected]&gt;: Apr 05 10:40PM
+0530
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Greetings,<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Issue: YouTube app on my iPhone 12, running iOS 18.4. I&#39;m having
troubl=
e<br />
navigating the Notifications screen using heading navigation with
VoiceOver=
.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Although there are clear headings on this screen (Notifications,
Important,=
<br />
and Today), I&#39;m unable to navigate to them using VoiceOver.
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&lt;<a href=3D"https://youtu.be/lX-YTyiAq-w?
si=3D6iwrxMU_D6OGaSSV">https://=
youtu.be/lX-YTyiAq-w?si=3D6iwrxMU_D6OGaSSV</a>&gt; , which was
initially<br=
/>
observed on an older iOS version but still persists on the current
version<=
br />
(iOS 18.4).<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<br />
&nbsp;<br />
I&#39;d appreciate it if you could investigate this issue and provide
a sol=
ution<br />
or workaround to enable proper heading navigation with VoiceOver on
the<br =
/>
Notifications screen.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Thank you for your time and assistance.<br />

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Mujtaba Merchant &lt;[email protected]&gt;: Apr 05 10:17PM
+0530
</span>
<br /><br />
This video demonstrates a strange issue where I&#39;m unable to
comme=
nt on some<br />
videos in the YouTube app, despite commenting being enabled. This
issue<br =
/>
occurs randomly, regardless of whether I&#39;ve subscribed to the
channel o=
r<br />
not.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
&nbsp;<br />
YouTube: Issue with commenting on videos | iPhone 12 (iOS 18.4)<br />
&lt;<a href=3D"https://youtube.com/shorts/i8oTgP3HmGU?
feature=3Dshare">http=
s://youtube.com/shorts/i8oTgP3HmGU?feature=3Dshare</a>&gt;<br />

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t/5f6e0f229e6dada9?utm_source=3Ddigest&utm_medium=3Demail"
style=3D"font-si=
ze:21px; color:#15c; text-decoration:none">
combining talkback with chromeVox
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Josh Kennedy &lt;[email protected]&gt;: Apr 04 08:42PM
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hi,<br />
&nbsp;<br />
I think if talkback and chromevox were combined, we would have a
great<br /=
>
screen reader. That is because chromeVox has all the keyboard commands
and<=
br />
can even read math and font and style changes, and talkback is good
for<br =
/>
everything else. What do you all think? Could talkback and
chromeVox<br />
somehow be combined? Could chromeVox work on android phones so we
could use=
<br />
google docs, sheets and slides on android phones?<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Josh<br />

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t/2d62d7bebf181d12?utm_source=3Ddigest&utm_medium=3Demail"
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Google Book and new European Accessibility Act
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&lt;[email protected]&gt;: Apr 04 05:03PM -0600
</span>
<br /><br />
This should answer your questions. I assume Google would follow
these=
guidelines.<br />
<br />
Dear Publishing Community,<br />
<br />
Please feel free to circulate broadly!<br />
<br />
The Accessibility task force of the W3C Publishing Community Group is
pleas=
ed to announce the third draft of the =E2=80=9CAccessibility metadata
displ=
ay guide for digital publications 2.0=E2=80=9D. <br />
<br />
This is the final draft. We anticipate organizations to create
implementati=
ons based on this final draft. We anticipate minor suggestions to be
made a=
s the implementations are developed. Please provide your valuable
feedback =
on or before April, 11, 2025.<br />
<br />
The drafts are available at the following URLs:<br />
- Guidelines: <a href=3D"https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-
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guide/2.0/guidelines/">https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-
display-gu=
ide/2.0/guidelines/</a><br />
- EPUB Techniques: &lt;<a href=3D"https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/
a11y-met=
a-display-guide/2.0/techniques/epub-metadata/">https://w3c.github.io/
publ-a=
11y/a11y-meta-display-guide/2.0/techniques/epub-metadata/</a>&gt; <a
href=
=3D"https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-guide/2.0/
techniques/=
epub-metadata/">https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-
guide/2.0=
/techniques/epub-metadata/</a><br />
- ONIX Techniques: &lt;<a href=3D"https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/
a11y-met=
a-display-guide/2.0/techniques/onix-metadata/">https://w3c.github.io/
publ-a=
11y/a11y-meta-display-guide/2.0/techniques/onix-metadata/</a>&gt; <a
href=
=3D"https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-guide/2.0/
techniques/=
onix-metadata/">https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-
guide/2.0=
/techniques/onix-metadata/</a><br />
<br />
We have added to this final draft all the strings displayed by the
guide. T=
he strings in US English are contained in the canonical &lt;<a
href=3D"http=
s://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y/tree/main/a11y-meta-display-guide/2.0/
draft/lo=
calizations/en-US">https://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y/tree/main/a11y-
meta-dis=
play-guide/2.0/draft/localizations/en-US</a>&gt; JSON file found on
GitHub=
. We anticipate providing localized versions of this file moving
forward an=
d encourage anyone who would like to help with the localizations/
translatio=
ns to review these localizations as they become available.<br />
<br />
Please file a GitHub issue &lt;<a href=3D"https://github.com/w3c/publ-
a11y/=
issues/476">https://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y/issues/476</a>&gt; with
your =
feedback. If you are uncomfortable filing a GitHub issue, feel free to
send=
me the comment and I will file the issue on your behalf.<br />
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Sincerely,<br />
George Kerscher, Chief Information Officer, DAISY Consortium<br />
on behalf of the W3C Publishing Community Accessibility task
force<br />
<br />
From: [email protected] &lt;[email protected]&gt;
On Be=
half Of C=C3=A9cile Quinon<br />
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2025 4:20 AM<br />
To: accessible &lt;[email protected]&gt;<br />
Subject: Google Book and new European Accessibility Act<br />
<br />
Hello there!<br />
<br />
I would like to know if you have an idea on how Google Book will deal
with =
the new regulation in Europe on Accessibility - for ebooks for
instance, it=
requests a lot of new meta-data to access the accessibility of
ebooks. <br=
/>
<a href=3D"https://internationalpublishers.org/the-european-
accessibility-a=
ct-for-non-eu-members">https://internationalpublishers.org/the-
european-acc=
essibility-act-for-non-eu-members</a><br />
<br />
Is there a documentation somewhere on how Google will show those
accessibil=
ity criteria to the end users? <br />
<br />
Thanks!<br />
C=C3=A9cile<br />
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- Random and multiple crashes of YouTube app on iOS [2 Updates]


http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/8e31802b70a2f078
- Youtube TV App Randomly Crashing When Flicking Through Live
Channels [1=
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- combining talkback with chromeVox [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/5f6e0f229e6dada9
- Google Book and new European Accessibility Act [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/2d62d7bebf181d12

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From: Josh Kennedy <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 05 10:17PM -0400
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a263bb0873d56

hi,

I wonder if the people at google would consider combining the talkback


screen reader with Chromevox, so we would have a screen reader that is
consistent across both platforms, and then no matter what you are
using, we
could use google docs, sheets, and slides? Because chromevox can read
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and font changes and it can do stuff that talkBack can't, and talkback
can
do some stuff that chromeVox can't do. So why not just combine the two
of
them?

Josh

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Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/8e31802b70a2f078
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From: Kevin <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 05 08:17PM +0100
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26333859fa43

Thank you

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From: Mujtaba Merchant <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 06 08:58AM +0530
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26378b462d02

I second this, there have been multiple crashes and not having the
Skip add=
button at the same place on each video is very disorienting.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf O=

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f Eric Oyen
Sent: 06 April 2025 12:45 AM
To: Google Accessibility <[email protected]>
Subject: Random and multiple crashes of YouTube app on iOS

Hey google dev team,

For the last month or so, I have noticed that the YouTube app crashes
rando=
mly during video playback, during reading comments and when submitting
comm=
ents, the submitted comment disappears without being posted. This
isn=E2=80=
=99t the only issue with the app, but it is a major one and even
affects ho=
w us blind users can use the app. I have submitted many (and multiple)
repo=
rts via the internal feedback mechanism without any response
whatsoever, an=
d even experienced a crash while attempting to submit a report.

Another issue inside the app, the magical, musical moving skip ad
button. T=
here is no consistent placement, which makes it very difficult to get
to (a=
nd the increase in numbers of ads during playback is becoming a major
annoy=
ance). I simply cannot justify paying out $20 a month for =E2=80=9Cad
free =
service=E2=80=9D with all this other nonsense going on. The musical
chairs =
routine with the skip ad button makes this complaint a definite
accessibili=
ty issue and with the crashes, makes the app almost unusable. Would
you ple=
ase do us all a favor and correct whatever bugs are causing this?

Thank you,

Eric Oyen

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Topic: Youtube TV App Randomly Crashing When Flicking Through Live
Channels
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/a5835b591a82ca39
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From: Jim Bauer <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 05 02:32PM -0500
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26299490d91f

When running the iOS Youtube TV app with Voiceover, the app crashes
when I =
go to the live tab and start one-finger flicking through channels. It
won't=
happen right away--it'll take about 4 or 5, but the crashing is
consistent=
.

This started in Youtube TV version 9.11, was seemingly fixed in


version 9.1=
2 and then re-appeared in 9.13.

I've submitted 2 different cases through mainstream support via the


in-app =
"contact support" system. Agents handling my most recent ticket
claimed tha=
t teams had looked into it and could not find a specific cause, but I
doubt=
the issue is getting where it needs to go.

Are accessibility and/or dev teams aware and investigating?

Are there any end-users on this list experiencing this issue?

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From: Mujtaba Merchant <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 05 10:40PM +0530
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26255b64f0a1

Greetings,

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Issue: YouTube app on my iPhone 12, running iOS 18.4. I'm having
trouble
navigating the Notifications screen using heading navigation with
VoiceOver=
.

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Although there are clear headings on this screen (Notifications,


Important,
and Today), I'm unable to navigate to them using VoiceOver. I've
recorded a
video demonstrating this behavior
<https://youtu.be/lX-YTyiAq-w?si=3D6iwrxMU_D6OGaSSV> , which was
initially
observed on an older iOS version but still persists on the current
version
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I'd appreciate it if you could investigate this issue and provide a


solutio=
n
or workaround to enable proper heading navigation with VoiceOver on
the
Notifications screen.

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Thank you for your time and assistance.

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Topic: Youtube: Issue with commenting on videos | iPhone 12 (iOS 18.4)
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/944f736592a3fb64
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From: Mujtaba Merchant <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 05 10:17PM +0530
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a2624af8bf982

This video demonstrates a strange issue where I'm unable to comment on


some
videos in the YouTube app, despite commenting being enabled. This
issue
occurs randomly, regardless of whether I've subscribed to the channel
or
not.

YouTube: Issue with commenting on videos | iPhone 12 (iOS 18.4)


<https://youtube.com/shorts/i8oTgP3HmGU?feature=3Dshare>

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Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/5f6e0f229e6dada9
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From: Josh Kennedy <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 04 08:42PM -0400
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a2618bbbcddd2

hi,

I think if talkback and chromevox were combined, we would have a great


screen reader. That is because chromeVox has all the keyboard commands
and
can even read math and font and style changes, and talkback is good
for
everything else. What do you all think? Could talkback and chromeVox
somehow be combined? Could chromeVox work on android phones so we
could use
google docs, sheets and slides on android phones?

Josh

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Topic: Google Book and new European Accessibility Act
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/2d62d7bebf181d12
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From: <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 04 05:03PM -0600
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26189c142e26

This should answer your questions. I assume Google would follow these
guide=
lines.
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Dear Publishing Community,
=20
Please feel free to circulate broadly!
=20
The Accessibility task force of the W3C Publishing Community Group is
pleas=
ed to announce the third draft of the =E2=80=9CAccessibility metadata
displ=
ay guide for digital publications 2.0=E2=80=9D.=20
=20
This is the final draft. We anticipate organizations to create
implementati=
ons based on this final draft. We anticipate minor suggestions to be
made a=
s the implementations are developed. Please provide your valuable
feedback =
on or before April, 11, 2025.
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The drafts are available at the following URLs:
- Guidelines: https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-guide/
2.0/g=
uidelines/
- EPUB Techniques: <https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-
display-guid=
e/2.0/techniques/epub-metadata/> https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-
meta-=
display-guide/2.0/techniques/epub-metadata/
- ONIX Techniques: <https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-
display-guid=
e/2.0/techniques/onix-metadata/> https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-
meta-=
display-guide/2.0/techniques/onix-metadata/
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We have added to this final draft all the strings displayed by the
guide. T=

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he strings in US English are contained in the canonical <https://


github.com=
/w3c/publ-a11y/tree/main/a11y-meta-display-guide/2.0/draft/
localizations/en=
-US> JSON file found on GitHub. We anticipate providing localized
versions=
of this file moving forward and encourage anyone who would like to
help wi=
th the localizations/translations to review these localizations as
they bec=
ome available.
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Please file a GitHub issue <https://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y/issues/
476> w=
ith your feedback. If you are uncomfortable filing a GitHub issue,
feel fre=
e to send me the comment and I will file the issue on your behalf.
=20
Sincerely,
George Kerscher, Chief Information Officer, DAISY Consortium
on behalf of the W3C Publishing Community Accessibility task force
=20
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf O=
f C=C3=A9cile Quinon
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2025 4:20 AM
To: accessible <[email protected]>
Subject: Google Book and new European Accessibility Act
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talkback<br /=
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I second this, there have been multiple crashes and not having
the Sk=
ip add button at the same place on each video is very
disorienting.<br />
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-----Original Message-----<br />
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On Be=
half Of Eric Oyen<br />
Sent: 06 April 2025 12:45 AM<br />
To: Google Accessibility &lt;[email protected]&gt;<br />
Subject: Random and multiple crashes of YouTube app on iOS<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Hey google dev team,<br />
&nbsp;<br />
For the last month or so, I have noticed that the YouTube app crashes
rando=
mly during video playback, during reading comments and when submitting
comm=
ents, the submitted comment disappears without being posted. This
isn=E2=80=
=99t the only issue with the app, but it is a major one and even
affects ho=
w us blind users can use the app. I have submitted many (and multiple)
repo=
rts via the internal feedback mechanism without any response
whatsoever, an=
d even experienced a crash while attempting to submit a report.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Another issue inside the app, the magical, musical moving skip ad
button. T=
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ance). I simply cannot justify paying out $20 a month for =E2=80=9Cad
free =
service=E2=80=9D with all this other nonsense going on. The musical
chairs =
routine with the skip ad button makes this complaint a definite
accessibili=
ty issue and with the crashes, makes the app almost unusable. Would
you ple=
ase do us all a favor and correct whatever bugs are causing this?<br /
>
&nbsp;<br />
Thank you,<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Eric Oyen<br />
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When running the iOS Youtube TV app with Voiceover, the app
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hen I go to the live tab and start one-finger flicking through
channels. It=
won&#39;t happen right away--it&#39;ll take about 4 or 5, but the
crashing=
is consistent.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
This started in Youtube TV version 9.11, was seemingly fixed in
version 9.1=
2 and then re-appeared in 9.13.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
I&#39;ve submitted 2 different cases through mainstream support via
the in-=
app &quot;contact support&quot; system. Agents handling my most recent
tick=
et claimed that teams had looked into it and could not find a specific
caus=
e, but I doubt the issue is getting where it needs to go.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Are accessibility and/or dev teams aware and investigating?<br />
&nbsp;<br />
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Greetings,<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<br />
&nbsp;<br />
Issue: YouTube app on my iPhone 12, running iOS 18.4. I&#39;m having
troubl=
e<br />
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VoiceOver=
.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
<br />
&nbsp;<br />
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I&#39;ve re=
corded a<br />
video demonstrating this behavior<br />
&lt;<a href=3D"https://youtu.be/lX-YTyiAq-w?
si=3D6iwrxMU_D6OGaSSV">https://=
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version<=
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&nbsp;<br />
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&nbsp;<br />
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or workaround to enable proper heading navigation with VoiceOver on
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Notifications screen.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
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This video demonstrates a strange issue where I&#39;m unable to
comme=
nt on some<br />
videos in the YouTube app, despite commenting being enabled. This
issue<br =
/>
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channel o=
r<br />
not.<br />
&nbsp;<br />
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YouTube: Issue with commenting on videos | iPhone 12 (iOS 18.4)<br />
&lt;<a href=3D"https://youtube.com/shorts/i8oTgP3HmGU?
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&nbsp;<br />
I think if talkback and chromevox were combined, we would have a
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>
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and<=
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/>
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chromeVox<br />
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could use=
<br />
google docs, sheets and slides on android phones?<br />
&nbsp;<br />
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This should answer your questions. I assume Google would follow
these=
guidelines.<br />
<br />
Dear Publishing Community,<br />
<br />
Please feel free to circulate broadly!<br />
<br />
The Accessibility task force of the W3C Publishing Community Group is
pleas=
ed to announce the third draft of the =E2=80=9CAccessibility metadata
displ=
ay guide for digital publications 2.0=E2=80=9D. <br />
<br />
This is the final draft. We anticipate organizations to create
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- Guidelines: <a href=3D"https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-
display-=
guide/2.0/guidelines/">https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-
display-gu=
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a11y-met=
a-display-guide/2.0/techniques/epub-metadata/">https://w3c.github.io/
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=3D"https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-guide/2.0/
techniques/=
onix-metadata/">https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-
guide/2.0=
/techniques/onix-metadata/</a><br />
<br />
We have added to this final draft all the strings displayed by the
guide. T=
he strings in US English are contained in the canonical &lt;<a
href=3D"http=
s://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y/tree/main/a11y-meta-display-guide/2.0/
draft/lo=
calizations/en-US">https://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y/tree/main/a11y-
meta-dis=
play-guide/2.0/draft/localizations/en-US</a>&gt; JSON file found on
GitHub=
. We anticipate providing localized versions of this file moving
forward an=
d encourage anyone who would like to help with the localizations/
translatio=
ns to review these localizations as they become available.<br />
<br />
Please file a GitHub issue &lt;<a href=3D"https://github.com/w3c/publ-
a11y/=
issues/476">https://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y/issues/476</a>&gt; with
your =

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