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Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/a5835b591a82ca39
- Accessibility Issue with YouTube App on iPhone 12 (iOS 18.4) -
Heading =
Navigation on Notification Screen with VoiceOver [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/714def61ad078bf7
- Youtube: Issue with commenting on videos | iPhone 12 (iOS 18.4) [1
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http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/944f736592a3fb64
- combining talkback with chromeVox [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/5f6e0f229e6dada9
- Google Book and new European Accessibility Act [1 Update]
http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/2d62d7bebf181d12
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Topic: combining talkback with chromevox?
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/4862eae68acc3094
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From: Josh Kennedy <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 05 10:17PM -0400
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a263bb0873d56
hi,
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Topic: Random and multiple crashes of YouTube app on iOS
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/8e31802b70a2f078
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From: Kevin <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 05 08:17PM +0100
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26333859fa43
Thank you
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From: Mujtaba Merchant <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 06 08:58AM +0530
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26378b462d02
I second this, there have been multiple crashes and not having the
Skip add=
button at the same place on each video is very disorienting.
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f Eric Oyen
Sent: 06 April 2025 12:45 AM
To: Google Accessibility <[email protected]>
Subject: Random and multiple crashes of YouTube app on iOS
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For the last month or so, I have noticed that the YouTube app crashes
rando=
mly during video playback, during reading comments and when submitting
comm=
ents, the submitted comment disappears without being posted. This
isn=E2=80=
=99t the only issue with the app, but it is a major one and even
affects ho=
w us blind users can use the app. I have submitted many (and multiple)
repo=
rts via the internal feedback mechanism without any response
whatsoever, an=
d even experienced a crash while attempting to submit a report.
Another issue inside the app, the magical, musical moving skip ad
button. T=
here is no consistent placement, which makes it very difficult to get
to (a=
nd the increase in numbers of ads during playback is becoming a major
annoy=
ance). I simply cannot justify paying out $20 a month for =E2=80=9Cad
free =
service=E2=80=9D with all this other nonsense going on. The musical
chairs =
routine with the skip ad button makes this complaint a definite
accessibili=
ty issue and with the crashes, makes the app almost unusable. Would
you ple=
ase do us all a favor and correct whatever bugs are causing this?
Thank you,
Eric Oyen
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Topic: Youtube TV App Randomly Crashing When Flicking Through Live
Channels
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/a5835b591a82ca39
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From: Jim Bauer <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 05 02:32PM -0500
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26299490d91f
When running the iOS Youtube TV app with Voiceover, the app crashes
when I =
go to the live tab and start one-finger flicking through channels. It
won't=
happen right away--it'll take about 4 or 5, but the crashing is
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Topic: Accessibility Issue with YouTube App on iPhone 12 (iOS 18.4) -
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ng Navigation on Notification Screen with VoiceOver
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/714def61ad078bf7
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From: Mujtaba Merchant <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 05 10:40PM +0530
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26255b64f0a1
Greetings,
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or workaround to enable proper heading navigation with VoiceOver on
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Topic: Youtube: Issue with commenting on videos | iPhone 12 (iOS 18.4)
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/944f736592a3fb64
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From: Mujtaba Merchant <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 05 10:17PM +0530
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a2624af8bf982
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Topic: combining talkback with chromeVox
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/5f6e0f229e6dada9
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From: Josh Kennedy <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 04 08:42PM -0400
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a2618bbbcddd2
hi,
Josh
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From: <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 04 05:03PM -0600
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26189c142e26
This should answer your questions. I assume Google would follow these
guide=
lines.
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Dear Publishing Community,
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The Accessibility task force of the W3C Publishing Community Group is
pleas=
ed to announce the third draft of the =E2=80=9CAccessibility metadata
displ=
ay guide for digital publications 2.0=E2=80=9D.=20
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implementati=
ons based on this final draft. We anticipate minor suggestions to be
made a=
s the implementations are developed. Please provide your valuable
feedback =
on or before April, 11, 2025.
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- Guidelines: https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-guide/
2.0/g=
uidelines/
- EPUB Techniques: <https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-
display-guid=
e/2.0/techniques/epub-metadata/> https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-
meta-=
display-guide/2.0/techniques/epub-metadata/
- ONIX Techniques: <https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-
display-guid=
e/2.0/techniques/onix-metadata/> https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-
meta-=
display-guide/2.0/techniques/onix-metadata/
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guide. T=
he strings in US English are contained in the canonical <https://
github.com=
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could use google docs, sheets, and slides? Because chromevox can read
style=
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and font changes and it can do stuff that talkBack can't, and
talkback =
can<br />
do some stuff that chromeVox can't do. So why not just combine the
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disorienting.<br />
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Sent: 06 April 2025 12:45 AM<br />
To: Google Accessibility <[email protected]><br />
Subject: Random and multiple crashes of YouTube app on iOS<br />
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Hey google dev team,<br />
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For the last month or so, I have noticed that the YouTube app crashes
rando=
mly during video playback, during reading comments and when submitting
comm=
ents, the submitted comment disappears without being posted. This
isn=E2=80=
=99t the only issue with the app, but it is a major one and even
affects ho=
w us blind users can use the app. I have submitted many (and multiple)
repo=
rts via the internal feedback mechanism without any response
whatsoever, an=
d even experienced a crash while attempting to submit a report.<br />
<br />
Another issue inside the app, the magical, musical moving skip ad
button. T=
here is no consistent placement, which makes it very difficult to get
to (a=
nd the increase in numbers of ads during playback is becoming a major
annoy=
ance). I simply cannot justify paying out $20 a month for =E2=80=9Cad
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free =
service=E2=80=9D with all this other nonsense going on. The musical
chairs =
routine with the skip ad button makes this complaint a definite
accessibili=
ty issue and with the crashes, makes the app almost unusable. Would
you ple=
ase do us all a favor and correct whatever bugs are causing this?<br /
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guide/2.0/guidelines/">https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-
display-gu=
ide/2.0/guidelines/</a><br />
- EPUB Techniques: <<a href=3D"https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/
a11y-met=
a-display-guide/2.0/techniques/epub-metadata/">https://w3c.github.io/
publ-a=
11y/a11y-meta-display-guide/2.0/techniques/epub-metadata/</a>> <a
href=
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epub-metadata/">https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-
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guide/2.0=
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guide. T=
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href=3D"http=
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draft/lo=
calizations/en-US">https://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y/tree/main/a11y-
meta-dis=
play-guide/2.0/draft/localizations/en-US</a>> JSON file found on
GitHub=
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translatio=
ns to review these localizations as they become available.<br />
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a11y/=
issues/476">https://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y/issues/476</a>> with
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Sincerely,<br />
George Kerscher, Chief Information Officer, DAISY Consortium<br />
on behalf of the W3C Publishing Community Accessibility task
force<br />
<br />
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Be=
half Of C=C3=A9cile Quinon<br />
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2025 4:20 AM<br />
To: accessible <[email protected]><br />
Subject: Google Book and new European Accessibility Act<br />
<br />
Hello there!<br />
<br />
I would like to know if you have an idea on how Google Book will deal
with =
the new regulation in Europe on Accessibility - for ebooks for
instance, it=
requests a lot of new meta-data to access the accessibility of
ebooks. <br=
/>
<a href=3D"https://internationalpublishers.org/the-european-
accessibility-a=
ct-for-non-eu-members">https://internationalpublishers.org/the-
european-acc=
essibility-act-for-non-eu-members</a><br />
<br />
Is there a documentation somewhere on how Google will show those
accessibil=
ity criteria to the end users? <br />
<br />
Thanks!<br />
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From: Josh Kennedy <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 05 10:17PM -0400
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a263bb0873d56
hi,
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and font changes and it can do stuff that talkBack can't, and talkback
can
do some stuff that chromeVox can't do. So why not just combine the two
of
them?
Josh
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Topic: Random and multiple crashes of YouTube app on iOS
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/8e31802b70a2f078
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From: Kevin <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 05 08:17PM +0100
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26333859fa43
Thank you
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From: Mujtaba Merchant <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 06 08:58AM +0530
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26378b462d02
I second this, there have been multiple crashes and not having the
Skip add=
button at the same place on each video is very disorienting.
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f Eric Oyen
Sent: 06 April 2025 12:45 AM
To: Google Accessibility <[email protected]>
Subject: Random and multiple crashes of YouTube app on iOS
For the last month or so, I have noticed that the YouTube app crashes
rando=
mly during video playback, during reading comments and when submitting
comm=
ents, the submitted comment disappears without being posted. This
isn=E2=80=
=99t the only issue with the app, but it is a major one and even
affects ho=
w us blind users can use the app. I have submitted many (and multiple)
repo=
rts via the internal feedback mechanism without any response
whatsoever, an=
d even experienced a crash while attempting to submit a report.
Another issue inside the app, the magical, musical moving skip ad
button. T=
here is no consistent placement, which makes it very difficult to get
to (a=
nd the increase in numbers of ads during playback is becoming a major
annoy=
ance). I simply cannot justify paying out $20 a month for =E2=80=9Cad
free =
service=E2=80=9D with all this other nonsense going on. The musical
chairs =
routine with the skip ad button makes this complaint a definite
accessibili=
ty issue and with the crashes, makes the app almost unusable. Would
you ple=
ase do us all a favor and correct whatever bugs are causing this?
Thank you,
Eric Oyen
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From: Jim Bauer <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 05 02:32PM -0500
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26299490d91f
When running the iOS Youtube TV app with Voiceover, the app crashes
when I =
go to the live tab and start one-finger flicking through channels. It
won't=
happen right away--it'll take about 4 or 5, but the crashing is
consistent=
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Date: Apr 05 10:40PM +0530
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26255b64f0a1
Greetings,
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Date: Apr 05 10:17PM +0530
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a2624af8bf982
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Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/t/5f6e0f229e6dada9
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From: Josh Kennedy <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 04 08:42PM -0400
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a2618bbbcddd2
hi,
Josh
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From: <[email protected]>
Date: Apr 04 05:03PM -0600
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/accessible/msg/a26189c142e26
This should answer your questions. I assume Google would follow these
guide=
lines.
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Dear Publishing Community,
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pleas=
ed to announce the third draft of the =E2=80=9CAccessibility metadata
displ=
ay guide for digital publications 2.0=E2=80=9D.=20
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This is the final draft. We anticipate organizations to create
implementati=
ons based on this final draft. We anticipate minor suggestions to be
made a=
s the implementations are developed. Please provide your valuable
feedback =
on or before April, 11, 2025.
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- Guidelines: https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-guide/
2.0/g=
uidelines/
- EPUB Techniques: <https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-
display-guid=
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meta-=
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I second this, there have been multiple crashes and not having
the Sk=
ip add button at the same place on each video is very
disorienting.<br />
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-----Original Message-----<br />
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Be=
half Of Eric Oyen<br />
Sent: 06 April 2025 12:45 AM<br />
To: Google Accessibility <[email protected]><br />
Subject: Random and multiple crashes of YouTube app on iOS<br />
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Hey google dev team,<br />
<br />
For the last month or so, I have noticed that the YouTube app crashes
rando=
mly during video playback, during reading comments and when submitting
comm=
ents, the submitted comment disappears without being posted. This
isn=E2=80=
=99t the only issue with the app, but it is a major one and even
affects ho=
w us blind users can use the app. I have submitted many (and multiple)
repo=
rts via the internal feedback mechanism without any response
whatsoever, an=
d even experienced a crash while attempting to submit a report.<br />
<br />
Another issue inside the app, the magical, musical moving skip ad
button. T=
here is no consistent placement, which makes it very difficult to get
to (a=
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and Today), I'm unable to navigate to them using VoiceOver.
I've re=
corded a<br />
video demonstrating this behavior<br />
<<a href=3D"https://youtu.be/lX-YTyiAq-w?
si=3D6iwrxMU_D6OGaSSV">https://=
youtu.be/lX-YTyiAq-w?si=3D6iwrxMU_D6OGaSSV</a>> , which was
initially<br=
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observed on an older iOS version but still persists on the current
version<=
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(iOS 18.4).<br />
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<br />
<br />
I'd appreciate it if you could investigate this issue and provide
a sol=
ution<br />
or workaround to enable proper heading navigation with VoiceOver on
the<br =
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Notifications screen.<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
Thank you for your time and assistance.<br />
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The drafts are available at the following URLs:<br />
- Guidelines: <a href=3D"https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-
display-=
guide/2.0/guidelines/">https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-
display-gu=
ide/2.0/guidelines/</a><br />
- EPUB Techniques: <<a href=3D"https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/
a11y-met=
a-display-guide/2.0/techniques/epub-metadata/">https://w3c.github.io/
publ-a=
11y/a11y-meta-display-guide/2.0/techniques/epub-metadata/</a>> <a
href=
=3D"https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-guide/2.0/
techniques/=
epub-metadata/">https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-
guide/2.0=
/techniques/epub-metadata/</a><br />
- ONIX Techniques: <<a href=3D"https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/
a11y-met=
a-display-guide/2.0/techniques/onix-metadata/">https://w3c.github.io/
publ-a=
11y/a11y-meta-display-guide/2.0/techniques/onix-metadata/</a>> <a
href=
=3D"https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-guide/2.0/
techniques/=
onix-metadata/">https://w3c.github.io/publ-a11y/a11y-meta-display-
guide/2.0=
/techniques/onix-metadata/</a><br />
<br />
We have added to this final draft all the strings displayed by the
guide. T=
he strings in US English are contained in the canonical <<a
href=3D"http=
s://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y/tree/main/a11y-meta-display-guide/2.0/
draft/lo=
calizations/en-US">https://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y/tree/main/a11y-
meta-dis=
play-guide/2.0/draft/localizations/en-US</a>> JSON file found on
GitHub=
. We anticipate providing localized versions of this file moving
forward an=
d encourage anyone who would like to help with the localizations/
translatio=
ns to review these localizations as they become available.<br />
<br />
Please file a GitHub issue <<a href=3D"https://github.com/w3c/publ-
a11y/=
issues/476">https://github.com/w3c/publ-a11y/issues/476</a>> with
your =
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