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When an instance of dune is already running, invoking dune build will still build the target, howwever other command line arguments are silently ignored by dune as the current RPC interface is too limited to express them. This may change over time, but currently it's unusual UX for dune build to behave differently depending on whether or not another instance of dune build is already running. To more accurately set user expectations, print a warning when dune is running with this reduced functionality.

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Warning: A running dune (pid: 124305) instance has locked the build
directory. If this is not the case, please delete "_build/.lock".
The requested targets will still be built however functionality will be
reduced and some command line arguments will be ignored.
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A couple of questions:

  • "If this is not the case, please delete ..." is this relevant ? if the build is being forwarded to a running instance, it doesn't make much sense to me to ask the user to delete the lock file.
  • "functionality will be reduced" what does this refer to?

I suggest tweaking the message and making it a bit less scary:

Warning: your build request is being forwarded to a running Dune instance (pid: 124305). Note that certain command line arguments may be ignored.

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I like the idea of warning the user when flags get ignored, but I would suggest that this would only happen if there are flags that will get discarded.

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Updated so that it only prints the warning if extra arguments were passed to dune build. This is done by comparing the Builder.t parsed from command-line arguments to the default Builder.t that would be created if no arguments were passed. This has become a fairly big change because I needed to propagate equal functions throughout the code, and I needed to change how Log.File.t is defined so that it can be tested for equality.

I also added Term.eval_no_args for extracting the default value of a type by running its command-line argument parser with no input which is possibly a controversial way of getting a default value, but I think otherwise computing a default value of a Builder.t would require quite a big refactor.

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It's a bit sad all these very verbose equal functions need to be added but I understand the idea.

Overall I think it needs a small wording change and an additional test and then it is good to go.

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The only [out_channel] that was ever passed in was stderr. Removing the
[Out_channel] case allows us to more easily test [Log.File.t] for
equality.

Signed-off-by: Stephen Sherratt <[email protected]>
Signed-off-by: Stephen Sherratt <[email protected]>
When an instance of dune is already running, invoking `dune build` will
still build the target, howwever other command line arguments are
silently ignored by dune as the current RPC interface is too limited to
express them. This may change over time, but currently it's unusual UX
for `dune build` to behave differently depending on whether or not
another instance of `dune build` is already running. To more accurately
set user expectations, print a warning when dune is running with this
reduced functionality.

Signed-off-by: Stephen Sherratt <[email protected]>
@gridbugs gridbugs force-pushed the dune-build-via-rpc-warning branch from a635197 to 83da0d3 Compare June 5, 2025 01:13
@gridbugs gridbugs merged commit e117ae2 into ocaml:main Jun 5, 2025
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maiste added a commit to maiste/opam-repository that referenced this pull request Jul 30, 2025
CHANGES:

### Fixed

- Stop re-running cram tests after promotion when it's not necessary (ocaml/dune#11994,
  @rgrinberg)

- fix: `$ dune subst` should not fail when adding the version field in opam
  files (ocaml/dune#11801, fixes ocaml/dune#11045, @btjorge)

- Kill all processes in the process group after the main process has
  terminated; in particular this avoids background processes in cram tests to
  stick around after the test finished (ocaml/dune#11841, fixes ocaml/dune#11820, @Alizter,
  @Leonidas-from-XIV)

### Added

- `(tests)` stanzas now generate aliases with the test name. To run
  `(test (name a))` you can do `dune build @runtest-a`. (ocaml/dune#11558, grants part of ocaml/dune#10239,
  @Alizter)

- Inline test libraries now produce aliases `runtest-name_of_lib`
  allowing users to run specific inline tests as `dune build
  @runtest-name_of_lib`. (ocaml/dune#11109, partially fixes ocaml/dune#10239, @Alizter)

- feature: `$ dune subst` use version from `dune-project` when no version
  control repository has been detected (ocaml/dune#11801, @btjorge)

- Allow `dune exec` to run concurrently with another instance of dune in watch
  mode (ocaml/dune#11840, @gridbugs)

- Introduce `%{os}`, `%{os_version}`, `%{os_distribution}`, and `%{os_family}`
  percent forms. These have the same values as their opam counterparts.
  (ocaml/dune#11863, @rgrinberg)

- Introduce option `(implicit_transitive_deps false-if-hidden-includes-supported)`
  that is equivalent to `(implicit_transitive_deps false)` when `-H` is
  supported by the compiler (OCaml >= 5.2) and equivalent to
  `(implicit_transitive_deps true)` otherwise. (ocaml/dune#11866, fixes ocaml/dune#11212, @nojb)

- Add `dune describe location` for printing the path to the executable that
  would be run (ocaml/dune#11905, @gridbugs)

- `dune runtest` can now understand absolute paths as well as run tests in
  specific build contexts (ocaml/dune#11936, @Alizter).

- Added 'empty' alias which contains no targets. (ocaml/dune#11556 ocaml/dune#11952 ocaml/dune#11955 ocaml/dune#11956,
  grants ocaml/dune#4161, @Alizter and @rgrinberg)

- Allow `dune promote` to properly run while a watch mode server is running
  (ocaml/dune#12010, @ElectreAAS)

- Add `--alias` and `--alias-rec` flags as an alternative to the `@@` and `@`
  syntax in the command line (ocaml/dune#12043, fixes ocaml/dune#5775, @rgrinberg)

- Added a `(timeout <float>)` field to the `(cram)` stanza to specify per-test
  time limits. Tests exceeding the timeout are terminated with an error.
  (ocaml/dune#12041, @Alizter)

### Changed

- Format long lists in s-expressions to fill the line instead of
  formatting them in a vertical way (ocaml/dune#10892, fixes ocaml/dune#10860, @nojb)

- Switch from MD5 to BLAKE3 for digesting targets and rules. BLAKE3 is both more
  performant and difficult to break than MD5 (ocaml/dune#11735, @rgrinberg, @Alizter)

- Print a warning when `dune build` runs over RPC (ocaml/dune#11833, @gridbugs)

- Stop emitting empty module group wrapper `.js` file in `melange.emit`
  (ocaml/dune#11987, fixes ocaml/dune#11986, @anmonteiro)
maiste added a commit to maiste/opam-repository that referenced this pull request Aug 5, 2025
CHANGES:

### Fixed

- Stop re-running cram tests after promotion when it's not necessary (ocaml/dune#11994,
  @rgrinberg)

- fix: `$ dune subst` should not fail when adding the version field in opam
  files (ocaml/dune#11801, fixes ocaml/dune#11045, @btjorge)

- Kill all processes in the process group after the main process has
  terminated; in particular this avoids background processes in cram tests to
  stick around after the test finished (ocaml/dune#11841, fixes ocaml/dune#11820, @Alizter,
  @Leonidas-from-XIV)

### Added

- `(tests)` stanzas now generate aliases with the test name. To run
  `(test (name a))` you can do `dune build @runtest-a`. (ocaml/dune#11558, grants part of ocaml/dune#10239,
  @Alizter)

- Inline test libraries now produce aliases `runtest-name_of_lib`
  allowing users to run specific inline tests as `dune build
  @runtest-name_of_lib`. (ocaml/dune#11109, partially fixes ocaml/dune#10239, @Alizter)

- feature: `$ dune subst` use version from `dune-project` when no version
  control repository has been detected (ocaml/dune#11801, @btjorge)

- Allow `dune exec` to run concurrently with another instance of dune in watch
  mode (ocaml/dune#11840, @gridbugs)

- Introduce `%{os}`, `%{os_version}`, `%{os_distribution}`, and `%{os_family}`
  percent forms. These have the same values as their opam counterparts.
  (ocaml/dune#11863, @rgrinberg)

- Introduce option `(implicit_transitive_deps false-if-hidden-includes-supported)`
  that is equivalent to `(implicit_transitive_deps false)` when `-H` is
  supported by the compiler (OCaml >= 5.2) and equivalent to
  `(implicit_transitive_deps true)` otherwise. (ocaml/dune#11866, fixes ocaml/dune#11212, @nojb)

- Add `dune describe location` for printing the path to the executable that
  would be run (ocaml/dune#11905, @gridbugs)

- `dune runtest` can now understand absolute paths as well as run tests in
  specific build contexts (ocaml/dune#11936, @Alizter).

- Added 'empty' alias which contains no targets. (ocaml/dune#11556 ocaml/dune#11952 ocaml/dune#11955 ocaml/dune#11956,
  grants ocaml/dune#4161, @Alizter and @rgrinberg)

- Allow `dune promote` to properly run while a watch mode server is running
  (ocaml/dune#12010, @ElectreAAS)

- Add `--alias` and `--alias-rec` flags as an alternative to the `@@` and `@`
  syntax in the command line (ocaml/dune#12043, fixes ocaml/dune#5775, @rgrinberg)

- Added a `(timeout <float>)` field to the `(cram)` stanza to specify per-test
  time limits. Tests exceeding the timeout are terminated with an error.
  (ocaml/dune#12041, @Alizter)

### Changed

- Format long lists in s-expressions to fill the line instead of
  formatting them in a vertical way (ocaml/dune#10892, fixes ocaml/dune#10860, @nojb)

- Switch from MD5 to BLAKE3 for digesting targets and rules. BLAKE3 is both more
  performant and difficult to break than MD5 (ocaml/dune#11735, @rgrinberg, @Alizter)

- Print a warning when `dune build` runs over RPC (ocaml/dune#11833, @gridbugs)

- Stop emitting empty module group wrapper `.js` file in `melange.emit`
  (ocaml/dune#11987, fixes ocaml/dune#11986, @anmonteiro)
maiste added a commit to maiste/opam-repository that referenced this pull request Aug 6, 2025
CHANGES:

### Fixed

- Stop re-running cram tests after promotion when it's not necessary (ocaml/dune#11994,
  @rgrinberg)

- fix: `$ dune subst` should not fail when adding the version field in opam
  files (ocaml/dune#11801, fixes ocaml/dune#11045, @btjorge)

- Kill all processes in the process group after the main process has
  terminated; in particular this avoids background processes in cram tests to
  stick around after the test finished (ocaml/dune#11841, fixes ocaml/dune#11820, @Alizter,
  @Leonidas-from-XIV)

### Added

- `(tests)` stanzas now generate aliases with the test name. To run
  `(test (name a))` you can do `dune build @runtest-a`. (ocaml/dune#11558, grants part of ocaml/dune#10239,
  @Alizter)

- Inline test libraries now produce aliases `runtest-name_of_lib`
  allowing users to run specific inline tests as `dune build
  @runtest-name_of_lib`. (ocaml/dune#11109, partially fixes ocaml/dune#10239, @Alizter)

- feature: `$ dune subst` use version from `dune-project` when no version
  control repository has been detected (ocaml/dune#11801, @btjorge)

- Allow `dune exec` to run concurrently with another instance of dune in watch
  mode (ocaml/dune#11840, @gridbugs)

- Introduce `%{os}`, `%{os_version}`, `%{os_distribution}`, and `%{os_family}`
  percent forms. These have the same values as their opam counterparts.
  (ocaml/dune#11863, @rgrinberg)

- Introduce option `(implicit_transitive_deps false-if-hidden-includes-supported)`
  that is equivalent to `(implicit_transitive_deps false)` when `-H` is
  supported by the compiler (OCaml >= 5.2) and equivalent to
  `(implicit_transitive_deps true)` otherwise. (ocaml/dune#11866, fixes ocaml/dune#11212, @nojb)

- Add `dune describe location` for printing the path to the executable that
  would be run (ocaml/dune#11905, @gridbugs)

- `dune runtest` can now understand absolute paths as well as run tests in
  specific build contexts (ocaml/dune#11936, @Alizter).

- Added 'empty' alias which contains no targets. (ocaml/dune#11556 ocaml/dune#11952 ocaml/dune#11955 ocaml/dune#11956,
  grants ocaml/dune#4161, @Alizter and @rgrinberg)

- Allow `dune promote` to properly run while a watch mode server is running
  (ocaml/dune#12010, @ElectreAAS)

- Add `--alias` and `--alias-rec` flags as an alternative to the `@@` and `@`
  syntax in the command line (ocaml/dune#12043, fixes ocaml/dune#5775, @rgrinberg)

- Added a `(timeout <float>)` field to the `(cram)` stanza to specify per-test
  time limits. Tests exceeding the timeout are terminated with an error.
  (ocaml/dune#12041, @Alizter)

### Changed

- Format long lists in s-expressions to fill the line instead of
  formatting them in a vertical way (ocaml/dune#10892, fixes ocaml/dune#10860, @nojb)

- Switch from MD5 to BLAKE3 for digesting targets and rules. BLAKE3 is both more
  performant and difficult to break than MD5 (ocaml/dune#11735, @rgrinberg, @Alizter)

- Print a warning when `dune build` runs over RPC (ocaml/dune#11833, @gridbugs)

- Stop emitting empty module group wrapper `.js` file in `melange.emit`
  (ocaml/dune#11987, fixes ocaml/dune#11986, @anmonteiro)
maiste added a commit to maiste/opam-repository that referenced this pull request Aug 12, 2025
CHANGES:

### Fixed

- Stop re-running cram tests after promotion when it's not necessary (ocaml/dune#11994,
  @rgrinberg)

- fix: `$ dune subst` should not fail when adding the version field in opam
  files (ocaml/dune#11801, fixes ocaml/dune#11045, @btjorge)

- Kill all processes in the process group after the main process has
  terminated; in particular this avoids background processes in cram tests to
  stick around after the test finished (ocaml/dune#11841, fixes ocaml/dune#11820, @Alizter,
  @Leonidas-from-XIV)

### Added

- `(tests)` stanzas now generate aliases with the test name. To run
  `(test (name a))` you can do `dune build @runtest-a`. (ocaml/dune#11558, grants part of ocaml/dune#10239,
  @Alizter)

- Inline test libraries now produce aliases `runtest-name_of_lib`
  allowing users to run specific inline tests as `dune build
  @runtest-name_of_lib`. (ocaml/dune#11109, partially fixes ocaml/dune#10239, @Alizter)

- feature: `$ dune subst` use version from `dune-project` when no version
  control repository has been detected (ocaml/dune#11801, @btjorge)

- Allow `dune exec` to run concurrently with another instance of dune in watch
  mode (ocaml/dune#11840, @gridbugs)

- Introduce `%{os}`, `%{os_version}`, `%{os_distribution}`, and `%{os_family}`
  percent forms. These have the same values as their opam counterparts.
  (ocaml/dune#11863, @rgrinberg)

- Introduce option `(implicit_transitive_deps false-if-hidden-includes-supported)`
  that is equivalent to `(implicit_transitive_deps false)` when `-H` is
  supported by the compiler (OCaml >= 5.2) and equivalent to
  `(implicit_transitive_deps true)` otherwise. (ocaml/dune#11866, fixes ocaml/dune#11212, @nojb)

- Add `dune describe location` for printing the path to the executable that
  would be run (ocaml/dune#11905, @gridbugs)

- `dune runtest` can now understand absolute paths as well as run tests in
  specific build contexts (ocaml/dune#11936, @Alizter).

- Added 'empty' alias which contains no targets. (ocaml/dune#11556 ocaml/dune#11952 ocaml/dune#11955 ocaml/dune#11956,
  grants ocaml/dune#4161, @Alizter and @rgrinberg)

- Allow `dune promote` to properly run while a watch mode server is running
  (ocaml/dune#12010, @ElectreAAS)

- Add `--alias` and `--alias-rec` flags as an alternative to the `@@` and `@`
  syntax in the command line (ocaml/dune#12043, fixes ocaml/dune#5775, @rgrinberg)

- Added a `(timeout <float>)` field to the `(cram)` stanza to specify per-test
  time limits. Tests exceeding the timeout are terminated with an error.
  (ocaml/dune#12041, @Alizter)

### Changed

- Format long lists in s-expressions to fill the line instead of
  formatting them in a vertical way (ocaml/dune#10892, fixes ocaml/dune#10860, @nojb)

- Switch from MD5 to BLAKE3 for digesting targets and rules. BLAKE3 is both more
  performant and difficult to break than MD5 (ocaml/dune#11735, @rgrinberg, @Alizter)

- Print a warning when `dune build` runs over RPC (ocaml/dune#11833, @gridbugs)

- Stop emitting empty module group wrapper `.js` file in `melange.emit`
  (ocaml/dune#11987, fixes ocaml/dune#11986, @anmonteiro)
maiste added a commit to maiste/opam-repository that referenced this pull request Aug 19, 2025
CHANGES:

### Fixed

- Stop re-running cram tests after promotion when it's not necessary (ocaml/dune#11994,
  @rgrinberg)

- fix: `$ dune subst` should not fail when adding the version field in opam
  files (ocaml/dune#11801, fixes ocaml/dune#11045, @btjorge)

- Kill all processes in the process group after the main process has
  terminated; in particular this avoids background processes in cram tests to
  stick around after the test finished (ocaml/dune#11841, fixes ocaml/dune#11820, @Alizter,
  @Leonidas-from-XIV)

### Added

- `(tests)` stanzas now generate aliases with the test name. To run
  `(test (name a))` you can do `dune build @runtest-a`. (ocaml/dune#11558, grants part of ocaml/dune#10239,
  @Alizter)

- Inline test libraries now produce aliases `runtest-name_of_lib`
  allowing users to run specific inline tests as `dune build
  @runtest-name_of_lib`. (ocaml/dune#11109, partially fixes ocaml/dune#10239, @Alizter)

- feature: `$ dune subst` use version from `dune-project` when no version
  control repository has been detected (ocaml/dune#11801, @btjorge)

- Allow `dune exec` to run concurrently with another instance of dune in watch
  mode (ocaml/dune#11840, @gridbugs)

- Introduce `%{os}`, `%{os_version}`, `%{os_distribution}`, and `%{os_family}`
  percent forms. These have the same values as their opam counterparts.
  (ocaml/dune#11863, @rgrinberg)

- Introduce option `(implicit_transitive_deps false-if-hidden-includes-supported)`
  that is equivalent to `(implicit_transitive_deps false)` when `-H` is
  supported by the compiler (OCaml >= 5.2) and equivalent to
  `(implicit_transitive_deps true)` otherwise. (ocaml/dune#11866, fixes ocaml/dune#11212, @nojb)

- Add `dune describe location` for printing the path to the executable that
  would be run (ocaml/dune#11905, @gridbugs)

- `dune runtest` can now understand absolute paths as well as run tests in
  specific build contexts (ocaml/dune#11936, @Alizter).

- Added 'empty' alias which contains no targets. (ocaml/dune#11556 ocaml/dune#11952 ocaml/dune#11955 ocaml/dune#11956,
  grants ocaml/dune#4161, @Alizter and @rgrinberg)

- Allow `dune promote` to properly run while a watch mode server is running
  (ocaml/dune#12010, @ElectreAAS)

- Add `--alias` and `--alias-rec` flags as an alternative to the `@@` and `@`
  syntax in the command line (ocaml/dune#12043, fixes ocaml/dune#5775, @rgrinberg)

- Added a `(timeout <float>)` field to the `(cram)` stanza to specify per-test
  time limits. Tests exceeding the timeout are terminated with an error.
  (ocaml/dune#12041, @Alizter)

### Changed

- Format long lists in s-expressions to fill the line instead of
  formatting them in a vertical way (ocaml/dune#10892, fixes ocaml/dune#10860, @nojb)

- Switch from MD5 to BLAKE3 for digesting targets and rules. BLAKE3 is both more
  performant and difficult to break than MD5 (ocaml/dune#11735, @rgrinberg, @Alizter)

- Print a warning when `dune build` runs over RPC (ocaml/dune#11833, @gridbugs)

- Stop emitting empty module group wrapper `.js` file in `melange.emit`
  (ocaml/dune#11987, fixes ocaml/dune#11986, @anmonteiro)
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