The problems in the organization itself are what led to it losing support. There were a number of characters within the organization that took advantage of several situations in order to enrich themselves. That is completely separate from the concept. Which is still valid.

P.S. I fixed the link

In other words, hope isn’t necessarily a bet but a bet is always a hope. Which was my point.

Explain the fundamental difference between “hope” and “bet”.

I’m thinking he’s a racist as well.

The “hope” is that they will make shitloads of money from gullible dipshits buying their bullshit.

kinda like Saw Gerrera in Star Wars

Its almost like the writers were trying to say something about the nature of oppressive empires and the various revolutionaries who oppose them.

Paypal needs to be sued unto oblivion.

They have to otherwise they would be impossibly expensive, importation of goods is not cheap. Their strategy is to sell as many of their own branded products as possible making them as close to premium quality as possible without compromising price. (Unlike a certain grocery chain in Canada that I could mention)

I love how you’ve gotten up-votes for an unsupported statement with literally no backing in reality simply because it is contradictory to the general sentiment of the rest of the post and comment section.

The redditifacation of Lemmy is proceeding on schedule.

The thing about this that is really fucked up is that this watering down of the term is giving cover to actual anti-semites who really do hate jewish people no matter who and where they are.

Shut up cog!

Sincerely, The Machine

The videos of police brutality and the disproportionate statistics do that for the movement. They’re literally why the movement exists in the first place.

You are fantastically naive. There have been literally thousands of videos of police brutality towards black people. All of which were 100% unnecessary. Rodney King was beaten almost to death by police officers on video in 1991. And black people had to riot to get any real attention to how completely fucked up our system is because every cop who beat him got off completely scott free. And still 30 years later another black man was murdered on camera in broad daylight by a cop who did not give one shit because he and his cohorts assumed they would see no consequences for what they were doing. And without BLM and the absolute shitstorm of protest that every black person and their allies threw up, he would have been given a free pass too. BLM is the reckoning that white America has to contend with because they continue to support racist ideologies. And, quite frankly, if nothing is done to curb the racist bullshit being enacted against non-whites right now there is an even bigger shitstorm on the horizon.

Also, you should actually read some of the things that suffragettes had to do to get the attention of the public for over a century.. It was not polite or inoffensive.

Any state with a minimum lower than $15/hr is a fucking joke.

Exactly. Criminals shouldn’t be allowed to benefit a broken system.

Can you imagine how differently the movement would gone if they simply adjusted the slogan from “Black Lives Matter” to “Black Lives Matter Too”. The fact that something this simple didn’t happen is a failure on the movement itself.

As a mater of fact I can. If they had used such an inoffensive moniker for their movement it would have been shoved to the back page of every newspaper and barely mentioned in any news program. The conservative assholes would have made fun of the acronyms and there would have been literally no conversation about the topic and no one would have had to come to terms with their own unaddressed racism that had been planted by 100 years of racist American ideology.

You and everyone who has commented with this exact “fix” for the Black Lives Matter movement should search within yourselves and try to determine why it really offends you so much. I saw someone mention the suffragette movement in relation to BLM and the comparison is apt. Suffragettes didn’t have any problem with disrupting the comfort of the people who’s opinion they were trying to alter. They knew very well that you cannot bring change by meekly asking for permission to get equal rights and standing in society. You have to get in their face and tell them YOU MUST BE COUNTED.

BLACK LIVES FUCKING MATTER

(as evidenced e.g. by “Blue lives matter”, which totally has the implied “more” attached)

Truth. Also, here is no such thing as “blue lives” because a cop can quit their job, a black person cannot quit being black.

This small interaction sums the internet up perfectly.

Once upon a time I objected to the Black Lives Matter moniker. I didn’t disagree with the message that black people need to be counted more than they were. I have always thought that I counted black people as equals to everyone, so I just subconsciously completed the sentence by adding the word “more” in my head. Thinking to myself “oh, they have a terrible branding issue because everyone who reads the phrase Black Lives Matter will automatically just think they mean Black Lives Matter More”. But ultimately that wasn’t the problem. It wasn’t the phrase that was the issue.

What was the real problem was the inherent racism that had be ingrained into my consciousness by untold years of media and politics that continually make black people out to be lazy selfish useless people who only want a handout. (See Ronald Reagan’s speech about the “welfare queen”. Hint, he wasn’t talking about a white woman.)

In the end the problem I had with the phrase “Black Lives Matter” wasn’t their fault for picking a bad phrase. It was, in fact, me and my own preconceived notions of what a black person is and should be. All based on how society has portrayed them my entire life.

So now I very loudly say “BLACK LIVES MATTER”. And more people need to embrace this instead of trying to logic it out of existence with the pointless platitude “well ackchually all lives matter” like some snivelling little child with an inferiority complex. Because yes all lives should matter but in our fucked up society black lives usually don’t.

A newspaper owned by oligarchs grooming the country for their next puppet president? Couldn’t possibly be.

Once you surrender your humanity it’s very difficult to get it back. Behaving like they do, you’ll become just as awful as they are. I’m not one to believe in the Democrats playing fair while the Republicans do whatever the fuck they want. I certainly think the Democrats, or any liberals that are in Congress, need to step up and use the rules that exist just as strongly as the Republicans have. But if we start ignoring the rule of law the way they are it no longer becomes relevant and we live not in a democracy but in a state of anarchic totalitarianism.