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I’ve done it lol, but there are a few serial downvoters/downvote trolls out there
52·7 天前Why how odd you didn’t copy the entire block
What is a “tankie?” Tankie was originally a pejorative term referring to communists who supported the USSR’s invasion of Hungary in 1956 and Czechoslovakia in 1968 [87, 96]. Over the years, the context of the usage of tankie evolved. For example, it has been used to express derision towards pro-Soviet hardliners [42], to describe communists who support China’s policies [69] (e.g., supporters of China’s actions on Uyghurs [95] and the Hong Kong protests [7]), as well as young, online Stalinists in general [44].
Thus, tankie is now used to describe much more than the set of communists who supported specific events from the Soviet era. The term tankie now covers communists who support “Actually Existing Socialist” (AES) countries; especially those with a Stalinist or authoritarian leaning.
Thus it is of wide spread usage to mean “authoritarian communists” regardless of whether or not it’s in a bonafide dictionary. Which, I might add, is a follower not a leader in language.
Furthermore, the entirety of their large scale study seems to be based on that definition
Sorry about the delay in my reply to you.
First of all your argument can be basically summed up as “They didn’t LITERALLY say those things, so it’s all invalid” like LMAO it’s called interpreting ones actions and subtext
For example, with this
No Dessalines didn’t literally say they openly support Russia, but the meme they posted says it. It states that if you support Palestine and Russia (aka fitting into the upper right quadrant), you “understand the core of geopolitics”
And dessalines very much positions himself as someone who “understands the core of geopolitics” so…put 2 and 2 together lol
Second, it was quite disingenuous of you to not even mention the “Full Collection” listing which is probably 50 links deep with a variety of evidence that any number of paints a clear picture of the censorship, what they support, the ideology and literal propaganda they spread or allow to spread.
Finally, I’d like to point out that your rebuttal thread sits at a 0 after over a month for the [email protected] version, with quite a controversial voting total.
Note, that instance that comm is on is probably one of the most federated instances on the Threadiverse, as a matter of their instance policy they have a very very light touch on defederation. Your write up had the widest possible exposure and still couldn’t end with a net positive. Along with a very wide range of comments.
But, your hexbear version, on probably the most defederated and blocked instance, ended with a positive 80 or something when I last saw, with nearly every comment just being in agreement. That’s an echo chamber right there LMAO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support or defend acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof.
Boycott as in don’t donate and block the instance as a whole and make it irrelevant by contributing to off-.ml versions of comms
You’re still conflating the tech itself and business. The tech can exist without the business or without it being part of the core business model (Think, a smaller LLM to generate game dialogue (which imo (if done right) could be a very cool thing)) trained and shipped as part of a game
LLMs are here to stay, but when the bubble pops many MANY businesses will not survive as we all know. But every bubble has its survivors and those will be the ones that actually use it for proper use cases that can actually turn a profit or use it to support or enhance other features that are part of their product (and I’m sure a few giant ones will survive just because of their size, though they’ll be damaged)
There are also plenty of good open source LLMs that don’t depend on profits and business models, so that’s another reason LLMs are here to stay
Though they will evolve im sure, new research and techniques will come and make them more useful
113·8 天前I think the hate needs to be properly directed towards the companies pushing it and not the tech itself. Because that’s pretty much here to stay.
And it does have good utility, in tailored ways wielded by people who know what they’re doing (e.g. you should be an experienced programmer already so you can catch when it’s fucking up or just doing things on a weird way)
Companies that use it over creatives (e.g. using it for ads or animation for a commercial product) can also fuck off and die
AI technology yea, lots of us find utility and value in AI itself. It’s a decent tool, it’s not an end all be all like the AI tech bros scream about.
AI companies fuck no, fuck them especially fuck OpenAI
I’ve been trying to get an archive.is link, but their service doesn’t seem to be processing properly
What the heck is Nebula lmfao
21·8 天前Oh I see, yeah, that’s definitely a big line, but there’s room for more nuanced lines as to what we think of as modern SM.
After all, forums are just an evolution of Usenet discussion groups and BBS’ and the Threadiverse/Reddit are an evolution of forums. They’re all social media in one form or another, but few would consider it to be modern SM.
There’s lots of interaction on mainstream SM, I partake in a little guilty pleasure with TT and while there isn’t as much depth to it as say a Reddit or Threadiverse comment section would be, there’s still plenty of pleasant interactions IME
More like proto-social media, a key defining factor for modern social media is things like feeds and ranking of both comments and posts. Which even PF and Lemmy do, if however basic the algo is
Traditional forums had the community and people could post content, but there was usually no ranking of posts or comments. Mostly just chronological order, with the exception of posts with the most recent replies being at the top of whatever category you were in
Though I’m sure there probably was a few “forward thinking” large forums that did something with feeds that looked more like modern SM
It’s more of a hybrid between forums and social media, but they’re of type “link aggregator” or in other words, the whole point is to post articles and then have discussions about them.
When Reddit was just getting started all you could do was post links to articles, no pictures and people loved it for that. Pictures came later, but even then depended on those pics just being another link hosted somewhere else (that’s where imgur came in) it was years before you could upload a picture direct to reddit
Aaand we’ve reached authoritarianism isn’t real. Go ask average people what they think “authoritarianism” means and you’ll get answers that center around suppressing freedom of speech, journalism, censorship.
Are there people who do call your examples authoritarianism? Absolutely. But there are also real people who claim the earth is flat.